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Richinns wrote:kevgull - you are hurting my head you miserable bar steward. Stop it!

Sorry Richinns sometimes I can't help myself.

I like to think of myself as an optimist with experience.

kevgull - you are hurting my head you miserable bar steward. Stop it!

So now the real list is out we know that Mansell has actually been offered a new deal. Also Stevens can't be transfer listed as he was only on a short term contract to the end of the season, so he has been released.

Given the slow and unconvincing start our new boss made to football management, I am expecting a complete shambles with regards to close season deals and any new signings.

Hargreaves and Hodges still sounds to me like a 70's comedy act.

Good lad. Will be interesting to see his progress under Hargreaves.

Was a 6 month offer I think?

Yeoman's just put on twitter he's signed a new contract.

hector wrote:I agree with all of the players that CH has put on the transfer list and can he see his thinking with those offered new deals.

However, I would have been tempted to let both keepers go and attempt to go for Jake Cole.

But then we'd still have to find a second 'keeper unless we relied on emergency loans and we all remember what problems that caused. In any case, there's no knowing if Jake Cole would want to drop down to Conference at lower wages but if the rumours are correct that Ricey may be off to City, then Cole could be an option. No - on balance, Matt's posting makes more sense. A gamble, yes - but a fully fit Pokey is a good 'keeper.

I agree with all of the players that CH has put on the transfer list and can he see his thinking with those offered new deals.

However, I would have been tempted to let both keepers go and attempt to go for Jake Cole.

It's a balancing act. Players at our level differ from players at the top A) in the level of their natural talent and B) they have some flaw or another. In Pokey's case, his flaw is that he is, one would presume, genetically predisposed to weak muscles which are prone to tearing under stress. That's (partly) why he plays for us.
Chris knows who's available, how much they cost etc and has decided to keep what he's got, believing that, all things considered, Poke is the best option.
Dave, who knows things about goalkeepers, will tell you that, when fit, Pokey is a bloody good option to have, especially at Conference level.
It's a gamble, but when you're a club like ours, everything's a gamble. Some (Olejnik, Eunan) pay off. Others (that **** we signed for £75k, scored about 2 goals for us, among many, many others) don't. We're chancing our arm that Damien can get him and keep him fit enough to be a decent investment.

I guess it's like buying a good car cheap but knowing it's cheap for a reason. If you get it home and it's completely **** from top to bottom, you're weighing it in having lost your money. If all it needs is a service, you're quids in. We've rolled the dice, to an extent, let's wait and see what comes up.

That said, if he is proper crocked, you're right, we can't afford to carry passengers.

Matt.

I'm rather surprised that so many 'out of contract' players have been offered new deals because as finances are stretched, Hargreaves isn't giving himself much room to bring in new blood. I am particularly surprised at Tom Cruise staying as he hasn't really lived up to his potential and slightly surprised at Poke being offered a new contract. Poke has been a good keeper for us in the past but he started the season injured and finished the season 'not able to kick a ball'. Clubs in Torquay's position can't afford to carry a goalkeeper who could spend half the season out injured.

brucie wrote:Quite bizarre that Benyon and Harding who were not listed last week, have been now. Thompson is worth persevering with, Cruise I am suprised about.

I know this is only a wind up, but some people really are as hard of thinking as you pretend to be. So, for their benefit...

Not if you've got more than about 6 IQ points, it's not.

Matt.

divingbboy wrote:

Primadonna use of social media unbefitting of a professional, who remains on the Club's payroll until June 30th at the very least. 'gullsfanatic1986' comments, if in any way attributable to remarks made by Lee Mansell to him/her, would show further lack of judgement.

Now replaced by the 'much to think about over the next month or so' line, I'm guessing that, combined with the attempted deletion of gf1986's posts, the message that this is unprofessional - particularly at a time when many professional footballers find themselves without any offer - has been taken on board.

Distressing time for him and his family. Rumours are of talks with Argyle. Hope he gets the move away he desires now he has altered his twitter account. I doubt he will, but hope he does.

Quite bizarre that Benyon and Harding who were not listed last week, have been now. Thompson is worth persevering with, Cruise I am suprised about.

gullsfanatic1986 wrote:What manse has been offered is nothing short of insulting!!!! I dont balme him for telling them to shove it. They did the same to Kevin Hill too. People in charge are a joke

oh dear

You mean a 1year deal on money that he's just about worth?

insulting!

gullsfanatic1986 wrote:Doesn't surprise me that people on here are just going to slag him off. He loves the club but when offered something that is so insulting it would hack you off wouldn't it? But each to their own, carry on slagging off

I don't see too many on here slagging him off, I doubt anyone would question his commitment and desire but football wise he had a poor season last year as did most of the club.

Would it have been better to have received no offer and be released? He at least has the option of staying and playing full time, which is more than will be available to a lot of released players this year.