ferrarilover wrote:I'm not convinced that we'd just let seventy grand walk out the door. I'm not sure he'd be dumb enough to leave, knowing that he'd have no way of getting fit (aside from paying privately). I don't think he'd burn his only viable bridge. I'm not sure he'd want to lose everything that comes with being a registered player. I can't see his name on the transfer list. No one has mentioned it at the club, the HE or anywhere else. Billy's not said anything and still has "TUFC player" in his Twitter biography.
I'm just not sure he's gone based on weighing all that against the uncorroborated say so of a man who shares an accent with Goldmember.
Matt.
But Matt, we all know he isn't worth that is he? Based on his performances last season, I think quite honestly we would struggle to get any of our money back ... let alone what we paid for him. It's unfortunate given that £70k is a lot of money for a club like ours but it happens, we only got a fraction back of the £70k we blew on Leon Constantine, £20k was it and likewise with Effion Williams it was a similar story if memory serves me right.
We should not forget that the ONLY way we could ensure that we get any money back on him was to offer him a contract at or above what he was earning. Never ever going to happen, based on the fact that 1) we simply cannot afford it and 2) his performances haven't justified it.
As for being on the transfer list, what would be the point of that? He is likely crocked for another 6 months in all probability and so no side is going to sign a player who in the worst case scenario might never be fit enough to play pro football again or might never fully recover his speed/mobility which can happen after a serious injury.
What we MAY have done is offered him a contract on quite literally peanuts just so as to ensure we kept his registration! I'm thinking like a hundred quid a week for the next 6 months say just to tide him over during his recuperation and recovery and then renegotiate a "proper" deal when (and if) he is fully fit. If he would have agreed to that then he would still be our player and we could ask a fee for him as he is under 24 and under contract. The fact that there has been no news on this suggests to me that, if there ever was such an offer, he has declined it and is instead probably sat at home with Mum and Dad with his feet up, living off his savings no doubt, and will then consider all his options when he is fully fit. Of course, he MAY still feel a certain obligation to come back to us, but he may not and certainly if he were to get a better offer elsewhere then as a free agent I would expect him to take it.
So, I imagine Dutch is right when he says that he has left the building. That's not to say that he may not turn up again in January trying to earn a new deal with us but unless we offered him a new deal when his contract expired at the end of June on the same terms he is now no longer our player and is a free agent. Just guessing but he could easily have been on £1200 per week, possibly even more I really don't know, but is there anyone connected with the club who would think that would represent good business given that he won't kick a ball until January in all likelihood ... just to protect our "investment". I don't think so!
No one likes the fact that we have "lost" this sort of money, but it happens. Swings and roundabouts really as we sold Mark Ellis for £75k to Crewe a couple of summers back and yet they saw fit to release him for nothing in May and Shrewsbury picked him up for free.
As for Bodin, based on what I have seen of our wingers so far this season I am not at all convinced that a fully fit Bodin would get anywhere near our first team over the likes of Cameron, Ajala, Briscoe and Chapell anyway!!!!
[quote="ferrarilover"][color=#FF0000]I'm not convinced that we'd just let seventy grand walk out the door.[/color] I'm not sure he'd be dumb enough to leave, knowing that he'd have no way of getting fit (aside from paying privately). I don't think he'd burn his only viable bridge. I'm not sure he'd want to lose everything that comes with being a registered player. I can't see his name on the transfer list. No one has mentioned it at the club, the HE or anywhere else. Billy's not said anything and still has "TUFC player" in his Twitter biography.
I'm just not sure he's gone based on weighing all that against the uncorroborated say so of a man who shares an accent with Goldmember.
Matt.[/quote]
But Matt, we all know he isn't worth that is he? Based on his performances last season, I think quite honestly we would struggle to get any of our money back ... let alone what we paid for him. It's unfortunate given that £70k is a lot of money for a club like ours but it happens, we only got a fraction back of the £70k we blew on Leon Constantine, £20k was it and likewise with Effion Williams it was a similar story if memory serves me right.
We should not forget that the ONLY way we could ensure that we get any money back on him was to offer him a contract at or above what he was earning. Never ever going to happen, based on the fact that 1) we simply cannot afford it and 2) his performances haven't justified it.
As for being on the transfer list, what would be the point of that? He is likely crocked for another 6 months in all probability and so no side is going to sign a player who in the worst case scenario might never be fit enough to play pro football again or might never fully recover his speed/mobility which can happen after a serious injury.
What we MAY have done is offered him a contract on quite literally peanuts just so as to ensure we kept his registration! I'm thinking like a hundred quid a week for the next 6 months say just to tide him over during his recuperation and recovery and then renegotiate a "proper" deal when (and if) he is fully fit. If he would have agreed to that then he would still be our player and we could ask a fee for him as he is under 24 and under contract. The fact that there has been no news on this suggests to me that, if there ever was such an offer, he has declined it and is instead probably sat at home with Mum and Dad with his feet up, living off his savings no doubt, and will then consider all his options when he is fully fit. Of course, he MAY still feel a certain obligation to come back to us, but he may not and certainly if he were to get a better offer elsewhere then as a free agent I would expect him to take it.
So, I imagine Dutch is right when he says that he has left the building. That's not to say that he may not turn up again in January trying to earn a new deal with us but unless we offered him a new deal when his contract expired at the end of June on the same terms he is now no longer our player and is a free agent. Just guessing but he could easily have been on £1200 per week, possibly even more I really don't know, but is there anyone connected with the club who would think that would represent good business given that he won't kick a ball until January in all likelihood ... just to protect our "investment". I don't think so!
No one likes the fact that we have "lost" this sort of money, but it happens. Swings and roundabouts really as we sold Mark Ellis for £75k to Crewe a couple of summers back and yet they saw fit to release him for nothing in May and Shrewsbury picked him up for free.
As for Bodin, based on what I have seen of our wingers so far this season I am not at all convinced that a fully fit Bodin would get anywhere near our first team over the likes of Cameron, Ajala, Briscoe and Chapell anyway!!!!