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Chris Hargreaves' v Paul Buckle's Conference teams

by Rjc70 » 01 Oct 2014, 22:57

Fair enough. Poor Olaf. The magic must have gone.

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by ferrarilover » 29 Sep 2014, 10:08

It was a generalisation, hence the "fun fact" element of the post. A roughly translated edition of an Icelandic newspaper shows that he used violence and stole a laptop from a man in his home. My favourite part of the translation says:

"Olaf stopped playing football after he skrópaði for Testing in Torquay in January 2005 and made himself disappear from the training ground"

A trick to impress even Paul Daniels.

Matt.

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by Rjc70 » 28 Sep 2014, 18:42

ferrarilover wrote: If he's armed, it is, by definition, robbery. Just a fun fact
You sure? What about 'Aggravated Burglary'. That said, I'm guessing it was in Iceland. Personally I'm surprised to hear that Goatsforeskin is mobile enough to pull off such a stunt.

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sent ... _burglery/

Buckle had the better equipped side for Conference football. This side has the potential to become that, I reckon.

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by Bomber » 28 Sep 2014, 13:46

tommyg wrote:I remember watching Bruno Meirelles for the first time in a pre-season friendly and was really impressed, but unfortunately he looked completely out of his depth when it actually mattered. Most of those players mentioned wouldn't get into our team now. Leroy was manager, coach, scout, kit man. You name it, he did it without much help. Apart from Hancox of course, who actually made a substitute appearance the following season at Rochdale after Tony Bedeau got crocked in the first half. I can't imagine what the other subs were thinking when Dickie was told he was coming on ahead of them!

It's amazing really how Leroy took us up and almost kept us in League One. Yes he inherited some fantastic players, but he got the most out of them and more. Happy memories even if it did end on an extremely sour note.
If the youth loan system had been around when Leroy was in charge I feel he possibly could have been more successful, as bigger clubs could have looked at the way we were playing, eg attacking, passing football, and decided that we were the best club to send their bright prospects to to further their development.

In Harry Redknapp's autobiography, he talked about lining up Brendan Rodgers as a part-time coach if he got the England job because 'if he could do it with lower league players at Swansea, imagine what he could do with the best players in the country'.

Only Leroy was doing it nearly decade earlier with players who really were lower league players.

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by ferrarilover » 28 Sep 2014, 09:36

Kernowgull wrote:armed burglary!!
If he's armed, it is, by definition, robbery. Just a fun fact.
Kernowgull wrote:ginger
:rofl:

Matt.

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by tommyg » 27 Sep 2014, 19:58

I remember watching Bruno Meirelles for the first time in a pre-season friendly and was really impressed, but unfortunately he looked completely out of his depth when it actually mattered. Most of those players mentioned wouldn't get into our team now. Leroy was manager, coach, scout, kit man. You name it, he did it without much help. Apart from Hancox of course, who actually made a substitute appearance the following season at Rochdale after Tony Bedeau got crocked in the first half. I can't imagine what the other subs were thinking when Dickie was told he was coming on ahead of them!

It's amazing really how Leroy took us up and almost kept us in League One. Yes he inherited some fantastic players, but he got the most out of them and more. Happy memories even if it did end on an extremely sour note.

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by hector » 27 Sep 2014, 19:48

Kernowgull wrote:The reason Leroy's league one team didn't stay up was threefold. Yes, we did spend 75k on Constantine, but that wasn't until Christmas. Very little other money was spent. We started very slowly if I recall, a great day out at Bristol City on day one where we grabbed a point late on with an Aggy penalty was followed by lots of defeats. We left ourselves with a mountain to climb. But the main reason in my eyes, was that Leroy was either incapable of identifying on unable to attract a decent keeper. We went down on goal difference, and throughout the season used about 10 different keepers. Some an absolute joke, like Gottkalksen. He was awful, then went on the run, and has since been imprissoned for armed burglary!! It was only when we got Marriott towards the end of the season that we started winning consistently.

That last day at Colchester was so frustrating, not because we lost and didnt turn up when all we needed was a point to stay up, not because we won 4 on the bounce to put us in with a chance that year, not because MK Dons scored in the 100th minute against Tranmere who rested players to send us down, but because a decent keeper from the off, or even half a season, and we'd have been comfortable lower mid table.

Still one of my favourite season despite all that. 3 of my best ever away days, Bristol City (1-1) Sheffield Wednesday (2-2, but two up at half time) and Oldham (2-0 win, 600 odd gulls, what an atmosphere!!).
Yes you are so correct about that season. It still rankles with me now, a decade later. We were trying to prepare for a season in the same league as Sheffield Wednesday with the usual random trialists in pre-season, people like Lee Canoville's older brother, Dean, who had been released by someone like Chertsey Town, Kain Bond, Jamie Gosling, Owen Story and the worst collection of keepers since Tony Fowler. The fact that we nearly stayed up was a miracle but staying up could have easily been achieved if Bateson had demonstrated a modicum of ambition that year. We also had a Portugese midfielder that year, who played briefly, Bruno Merielles, who did look like he had something about him, but sadly it wasn't to be.

That season demonstrated the folly of Bateson's 'penny-wise, pound-foolish' philosophy. Had we stayed up, we would have been in the same division as Bristol City, Nottingham Forest, Swansea, Swindon, Bournemouth etc who would have brought plenty of away support and boosted attendances. Two years later we were in the Conference playing Farsley Celtic and Droylsden. Such a waste.

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by Kernowgull » 27 Sep 2014, 19:33

Just found it bizarre that in our one season at a higher level in my memory, we had so many no mark players. I also saw probably more games that year than any other year, spent most of my student loan and ruined my degree travelling to away games that season, and yet have little to no memory of those players!

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by Scott Brehaut » 27 Sep 2014, 19:04

Kernowgull wrote:
Anyone remember Owen Story, Osvaldo Lopes, Bruno Mereilles, Ashley Keane, Zema Abbey, Stuart Noble, Stuart Wardley or Aaron Brown? I don't!!
Owen Story was a forward - didn't play many (if any) games.
Don't remember Lopes
Mereilles was a midfielder. Played a few games, but didn't set the world alight.
Keane was a midfielder (I think), played half a game....if I remember correctly, he was substituted in the first half after being shit, and was never seen of again
Zema Abbey was a forward. Scored one goal, but didn't play much. His brother (I think it was his brother anyway), Nathan Abbey was a keeper that player for us.
Don't remember Noble or Brown.
Wardley was a midfielder....wanting to say winger, but can't remember.

I'm sure if you googled them all you'd find out a bit more info.

I saw a few more games when we were in Div 1 as I was in the UK quite a bit.

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by Dutchgull » 27 Sep 2014, 18:43

"Anyone remember Owen Story, Osvaldo Lopes, Bruno Mereilles, Ashley Keane, Zema Abbey, Stuart Noble, Stuart Wardley or Aaron Brown? I don't!!
Kernowgull

Help, as I do !!

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by Kernowgull » 27 Sep 2014, 08:07

Just looked it up, 7 keepers that season

Van Heusden and Dearden (both played a big part in our promotion, sadly not good enough at that level)
Bertrand Bossu ( Rubbish)
Ollie Gottkalson (rubbish, then vanished when the police were after him)
Paul Jarvie ( played once, was dreadful, never played again, ginger)
Phil Barnes ( Excellent, looked like we'd stay up, recalled from loan by Sheffield United early)
Andy Marriott( joined in March, we won 13 points from 5 games leading up to the last match, too little too late!!)

Some interesting names on the squad list that season who I had forgotten, and some I barely remember!

We used 35 players in 2004/5 as opposed to 22 in the promotion season the year before!!

Anyone remember Owen Story, Osvaldo Lopes, Bruno Mereilles, Ashley Keane, Zema Abbey, Stuart Noble, Stuart Wardley or Aaron Brown? I don't!!

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by Kernowgull » 27 Sep 2014, 07:47

The reason Leroy's league one team didn't stay up was threefold. Yes, we did spend 75k on Constantine, but that wasn't until Christmas. Very little other money was spent. We started very slowly if I recall, a great day out at Bristol City on day one where we grabbed a point late on with an Aggy penalty was followed by lots of defeats. We left ourselves with a mountain to climb. But the main reason in my eyes, was that Leroy was either incapable of identifying on unable to attract a decent keeper. We went down on goal difference, and throughout the season used about 10 different keepers. Some an absolute joke, like Gottkalksen. He was awful, then went on the run, and has since been imprissoned for armed burglary!! It was only when we got Marriott towards the end of the season that we started winning consistently.

That last day at Colchester was so frustrating, not because we lost and didnt turn up when all we needed was a point to stay up, not because we won 4 on the bounce to put us in with a chance that year, not because MK Dons scored in the 100th minute against Tranmere who rested players to send us down, but because a decent keeper from the off, or even half a season, and we'd have been comfortable lower mid table.

Still one of my favourite season despite all that. 3 of my best ever away days, Bristol City (1-1) Sheffield Wednesday (2-2, but two up at half time) and Oldham (2-0 win, 600 odd gulls, what an atmosphere!!).

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by gurneygibbs23 » 26 Sep 2014, 20:36

Martin rice is missing from that list of our curent squad. A right mixed bag of that buckle squad list.
I also recall steve adams being rubbish did nothing in games but jog about. Tyrone thompson I remember was incredible on debut then incredibly poor after.

Leroy got akinfenwA at his best in our league one season and leon constantine for a wasteful 75k. But notthing else to help. I think if the 75 k had gone on better players we'd have stayed up

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by Dockers Pal » 26 Sep 2014, 19:30

It shouldn't be but we would suspect Bucks did have those advantages.
Leroy should have benefitted from the larger gates, better TV money and the proceeds of David Grahams transfer, but the players would have expected a pay increase and apart from the transfer in of Leon Constantine I don't recall any other obvious expenditure.
Mike Bateson had great care with the purse strings!!

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by Kit_robin » 26 Sep 2014, 19:20

ferrarilover wrote: I wasn't about for Leroy's L1 side. Do you imagine that Bucks had A) more money outright and B) freer access to whatever money was available?

Matt.
I would bet my house on it.

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