Gullscorer wrote:I posted this on another thread, but it seems appropriate to also put it here:
If Luke Young (or any of our best players) moves, it's an indication that the club desperately needs the money. You have only to look at the small attendances at Plainmoor to realise that the club's finances must be (or very soon will be) in very dire straits.
It's not a lack of ambition by the club that's the problem, it's lack of ambition by the supporters, and there's only one real answer: double the Plainmoor crowds from 2000 to 4000. Then we'll be able to keep our best players and give ourselves a chance to make progress up through the leagues.
Unfortunately, the support of many so-called fans seems to amount to nothing more than whingeing, moaning and criticising. It's these 'supporters', not the club, who are the real problem and they must be the real solution. If everyone took a friend or neighbour, and their kids, along to matches, or helped with fund-raising or made regular small donations, and, above all, actually supported their team, things would surely improve.
It's not the team's job to lift the crowd; it's the supporters' job to lift the players..
and it's the clubs job to lift the supporters.
When it was desperately needed over the summer they failed big time. They let fans down. Nothing to do with finances but simply the feeble manner in which they plodded through the most traumatic few months for a good few years.
Some fans will stay away because the footy is rubbish and by and large they're fickle but some will stay away because they feel disillusioned and hung out to dry.
It's all well and good the fans trying to drum up support for the club but that shouldn't be their job either.
The support the team got from the fans last season, certainly at away games as I went to most, was phenomenal. A real twelfth man at times. The fans were the only ones involved at TUFC who did their jobs properly last season. The players bombed, the board members passed every buck to poor Thea at every opportunity, the stewards annoyed and the club reclaimed the mantle of 'tinpot' status. You can hardly blame the fans for non attendance this season because of all that chaos and rampant unprofessionalism.
Just thought I'd respond on this one Mick because it hit a nerve. In the main what you have said is valid but just a few things I'd take issue with from a personal perspective.
Hope you are ok mate anyway.
In addition, I obviously read the forum still and the amount of poison, bickering and nastiness that still prevails on here is staggering and I don't even post anymore!! :devil: It's quite tragic really. Many of the posts even transcend the arguments between myself and Nick and that's going some!
. I hope you are ok Nick, I mean that sincerely my good man. I note that Royalgull wanted to slope off and I agreed with a lot of what he had to say and I also notice that Richinns also decided to call it a day ( he got a tenner out of me you know!!
). Rich hope you are ok too.
The comments aimed at Breedy for the commentary thingy were typical. Always happy to have a pop but not prepared to have a go at commentating themselves. I'm sure Breedy is like most other Torquay fans in not giving two shits what I think anymore given my 'defection' but regardless. I'd just say **** 'em Steve and if you enjoy it then carry it through bro.
Oh and Super is right.......Mock the Week is the most annoying pile of shit around other than my good self. Filled with obnoxious, self important morons who think they are funny........again, like my good errr.............
I did apply to go on I'm a Celebrity this year. I had a word with the producers and apparently being a regular poster on a football forum with almost a thousand posts to my name qualifies me under new rules to be officially a celebrity!! I know! It's **** madness ain't it?! At first I didn't think it would enough, so i told them that I had once been served scampi and chips at a beefeater restaurant in Corby by Andi Peters when he worked there as a waiter before his kiddie tv fame so surely that qualified me as a celeb? Obviously. Why wouldn't it?
It was only when they told me that during the show (if I was selected) then I may have to be confined with a load of snakes. I said no probs as a few years back I'd visited the House of Commons on a school field trip.
They told me I'd have to eat offal, testicles and mouldy insects too. No probs I said. I had half time refreshments at Fleetwood last season so knew what to expect.
They also told me I'd be plunged into some dark, grubby and rat infested places in some of the trials. Again, I went to Accrington last season. Bring it on man!!
They also told me that I'd possibly be chucked in there to create some 'romantic interest' from the other female campmates. Jesus! Who are these women?!! They must either be partially sighted (I do have SOME attractive attributes at least!) or they must have passed away. Or they could even have been a WAG! News for them before they start getting frisky.............I'm feckin skint ladies. Two years of trawling the UK watching Billy **** Bodin trying to play football.
In the end they refused my application because apparently there were key criteria that needed to be met............."are you effervescent, a team player and have a desire to meet new people?" they asked.
I'm a miserable Yorkshireman who CHOSE a career working with animals........WHAT DO YOU THINK?!!!
Torquay.........................be UNITED!!!!!!
You'll get there in the end.
COYY!!
[quote="Gullscorer"]I posted this on another thread, but it seems appropriate to also put it here:
If Luke Young (or any of our best players) moves, it's an indication that the club desperately needs the money. You have only to look at the small attendances at Plainmoor to realise that the club's finances must be (or very soon will be) in very dire straits.
It's not a lack of ambition by the club that's the problem, it's lack of ambition by the supporters, and there's only one real answer: double the Plainmoor crowds from 2000 to 4000. Then we'll be able to keep our best players and give ourselves a chance to make progress up through the leagues.
Unfortunately, the support of many so-called fans seems to amount to nothing more than whingeing, moaning and criticising. It's these 'supporters', not the club, who are the real problem and they must be the real solution. If everyone took a friend or neighbour, and their kids, along to matches, or helped with fund-raising or made regular small donations, and, above all, actually supported their team, things would surely improve.
[b]It's not the team's job to lift the crowd; it's the supporters' job to lift the players..[/quote]
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and it's the clubs job to lift the supporters.
When it was desperately needed over the summer they failed big time. They let fans down. Nothing to do with finances but simply the feeble manner in which they plodded through the most traumatic few months for a good few years.
Some fans will stay away because the footy is rubbish and by and large they're fickle but some will stay away because they feel disillusioned and hung out to dry.
It's all well and good the fans trying to drum up support for the club but that shouldn't be their job either.
The support the team got from the fans last season, certainly at away games as I went to most, was phenomenal. A real twelfth man at times. The fans were the only ones involved at TUFC who did their jobs properly last season. The players bombed, the board members passed every buck to poor Thea at every opportunity, the stewards annoyed and the club reclaimed the mantle of 'tinpot' status. You can hardly blame the fans for non attendance this season because of all that chaos and rampant unprofessionalism.
Just thought I'd respond on this one Mick because it hit a nerve. In the main what you have said is valid but just a few things I'd take issue with from a personal perspective.
Hope you are ok mate anyway. :-D
In addition, I obviously read the forum still and the amount of poison, bickering and nastiness that still prevails on here is staggering and I don't even post anymore!! :devil: It's quite tragic really. Many of the posts even transcend the arguments between myself and Nick and that's going some! :O . I hope you are ok Nick, I mean that sincerely my good man. I note that Royalgull wanted to slope off and I agreed with a lot of what he had to say and I also notice that Richinns also decided to call it a day ( he got a tenner out of me you know!! :@ :lol: ). Rich hope you are ok too.
The comments aimed at Breedy for the commentary thingy were typical. Always happy to have a pop but not prepared to have a go at commentating themselves. I'm sure Breedy is like most other Torquay fans in not giving two shits what I think anymore given my 'defection' but regardless. I'd just say **** 'em Steve and if you enjoy it then carry it through bro.
Oh and Super is right.......Mock the Week is the most annoying pile of shit around other than my good self. Filled with obnoxious, self important morons who think they are funny........again, like my good errr.............
I did apply to go on I'm a Celebrity this year. I had a word with the producers and apparently being a regular poster on a football forum with almost a thousand posts to my name qualifies me under new rules to be officially a celebrity!! I know! It's **** madness ain't it?! At first I didn't think it would enough, so i told them that I had once been served scampi and chips at a beefeater restaurant in Corby by Andi Peters when he worked there as a waiter before his kiddie tv fame so surely that qualified me as a celeb? Obviously. Why wouldn't it?
It was only when they told me that during the show (if I was selected) then I may have to be confined with a load of snakes. I said no probs as a few years back I'd visited the House of Commons on a school field trip.
They told me I'd have to eat offal, testicles and mouldy insects too. No probs I said. I had half time refreshments at Fleetwood last season so knew what to expect.
They also told me I'd be plunged into some dark, grubby and rat infested places in some of the trials. Again, I went to Accrington last season. Bring it on man!!
They also told me that I'd possibly be chucked in there to create some 'romantic interest' from the other female campmates. Jesus! Who are these women?!! They must either be partially sighted (I do have SOME attractive attributes at least!) or they must have passed away. Or they could even have been a WAG! News for them before they start getting frisky.............I'm feckin skint ladies. Two years of trawling the UK watching Billy **** Bodin trying to play football.
In the end they refused my application because apparently there were key criteria that needed to be met............."are you effervescent, a team player and have a desire to meet new people?" they asked.
I'm a miserable Yorkshireman who CHOSE a career working with animals........WHAT DO YOU THINK?!!! :clap:
Torquay.........................be UNITED!!!!!! :scarf: :scarf: :scarf: You'll get there in the end. :bow:
COYY!!
