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Gullscorer wrote:It's been a forgettable, many would say awful, season. But Hargreaves, in his first full season as manager, has done no worse than could have been expected. Of course things could have been better in many respects, but it would be unfair on CH and the club to say they should have been better. While everybody would have been disappointed, to say the least, if we had finished the season struggling at the bottom end of the table, to finish in a mid-table position is quite reasonable in all the circumstances.

That said, I reckon the year ahead will be one in which everybody will have, quite rightly, raised their expectations. If those expectations remain unfulfilled, the disappointment will be all the greater, and the calls for more drastic change will become even more strident. The next twelve months will be exciting in more ways than one.

But if the club's supporters are true and loyal fans who want to see a sustainable future for league football in the area, then we should, we must, over the next few months, give our full support to the club, the TUST, to CH, and to the team.

Stevie_RitchTea wrote:I believe that CH himself said his purpose was to "do his best to keep the team in the Football League" (failed) "and if not, make sure they go straight back up" (also failed)

The fact that he failed both his targets, does that not answer the question that this thread asks?

Gullscorer wrote:It's been a forgettable, many would say awful, season. But Hargreaves, in his first full season as manager, has done no worse than could have been expected. Of course things could have been better in many respects, but it would be unfair on CH and the club to say they should have been better. While everybody would have been disappointed, to say the least, if we had finished the season struggling at the bottom end of the table, to finish in a mid-table position is quite reasonable in all the circumstances.

That said, I reckon the next twelve months will be exciting in more ways than one, and the year ahead will be one in which everybody will have raised their expectations. If those expectations remain unfulfilled, the disappointment will be all the greater, and the calls for more drastic change will become even more strident.

But if the club's supporters are true and loyal fans who want to see a sustainable future for league football in the area, then we should, we must, over the next few months, give our full support to the club, the TUST, to CH, and to the team.

Southampton Gull wrote:Yep, he bought his own copy of Championship Manager and hasn't looked back since

Southampton Gull wrote:Yep, he bought his own copy of Championship Manager and hasn't looked back since

arcadia wrote: Scott yes I did, I'm not a person that won't say if a person gets it right, Chris did on Saturday but what I'm saying this could be sorted out after ten minutes not at half time. I'm not young enough to take the pressure of managing now, but I'm sure there is an ex-manager out there willing to talk things over which would help.
I must admit I love giving my opinion and I have been good at getting the balance right in a side which is the main problem for our team as we play to open!
I will always listen to anyone in football as you learn all the time and I can relate to a lot of things that supporters talk about.

Scott Brehaut wrote:So you say this:
Yet, just above that explained that you felt that the fullbacks and wide midfielders were too far apart and that Ives and Dawson were isolated, coming under pressure etc, yet Does that not suggest to you that our "inexperienced manager" who is "not learning", actually recognised the very thing that you did, and addressed it? Far from not learning, I would suggest that he is doing that very thing, especially in the example you highlighted....

arcadia wrote: I just feel Chris is inexperienced and not learning

arcadia wrote: The second half Hargreaves must have said something as this gap between them closed and we became more solid

arcadia wrote: Saturday we flattered to deceive the fullbacks and wide midfielders first half were to far apart and Ives and Dawson were isolated so had no help and we came under pressure and could easily have conceded. A better side would have taken advantage. The second half Hargreaves must have said something as this gap between them closed and we became more solid.
I just feel Chris is inexperienced and not learning, I know you all think I'm talking out my ass but I assure you I'm not. The best thing a new owner can do is get an experienced manager (He does not have to be fulltime)to guide Chris in the right direction. As Tomogull says strange decisions are taking place and have been for a long time which to me is inexperience.
Do we need an assistant?

Southampton Gull wrote: Oh yes you are.....................