Deano: Director of Kick and Rush?

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Deano: Director of Kick and Rush?

by bobby93 » 17 Jun 2015, 08:35

I won't disagree with the sentiment of players standing up to be counted and making Plainmoor a difficult place to play. However, I do worry that in returning to the 80s, we will be playing a different game to the teams we face. Football, even in the Conference, has moved on. Our inability to embrace that or even acknowledge it, is part of the reason we are in the mess we are in. Dean Edwards is obviously a man with strong opinions and has a vision of how football should be played in his head (i.e. the way it was when he was playing).

I also think, as I have for some time, that we need to be smarter and far more contemporary with our marketing and the way we reach out to the young people of our community. Going back to the 80s hardly indicates a progressive agenda in this area. I hope that the changes that have been made (regarding training facilities, youth academy, etc) are short term only, and will be built upon when finances become available.

Good luck to the new board.

Deano: Director of Kick and Rush?

by SuperNickyWroe » 17 Jun 2015, 08:12

Southampton Gull wrote:

I agree with Burnhamgull about letting the new board get on with the job, but I did have to laugh at you, supes, in agreeing with him - especially given the lack of time you afforded Greavsie in his role....you were on his case even before his appointment!!
And???

Obviously the new board agree.[/quote]


I think he was alluding to your hypocrisy ...................[/quote]

Really???

Deano: Director of Kick and Rush?

by Southampton Gull » 17 Jun 2015, 02:11

SuperNickyWroe wrote: And???

Obviously the new board agree.

I think he was alluding to your hypocrisy ...................

Deano: Director of Kick and Rush?

by chardie » 16 Jun 2015, 19:44

forevertufc wrote:As for the interview and rhetoric coming from Dean Edwards, firstly it should be seen, and is not hard to work out, a lot of what Dean said was in a "figure of speech" Dean Edwards clearly does not want people at the club, who would actually, for real kick their granny, and talking about the 1980's, he's clearly talking about mental strength, spirit and desire, that he seems to think is missing in so many young players coming through today.

As for the 'No more namby pamby' well hurray for that, long held opinion of mine, and posted it from time to time, sick and tired of watching other teams supporters celebrating promotion or avoiding relegation on our ground, while we've either missed or gone down ourselves.

Fed up to the back teeth of looking at League 1 and 2, littered with clubs who 20 years ago were the flower pot league, while we're deservedly, where we are . Our club is a soft touch, never forgotten queuing up for tickets for the Stevenage play-off final, with our fans complaining why Stevenage fans could buy tickets for which section wanted to go in, and then a voice pipes up from the back of the ticket office; well Stevenage have broken the rules laid down for the ticket sales, really, well just how naughty was that.

Dean Edwards and Steve Breed along with the consortium have shown more passion, desire and fight for this football club in a week, than I've seen in years, stand up and take a :bow: they have my support.
:goodpost:

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by Dutchgull » 16 Jun 2015, 19:40

forevertufc wrote:As for the interview and rhetoric coming from Dean Edwards, firstly it should be seen, and is not hard to work out, a lot of what Dean said was in a "figure of speech" Dean Edwards clearly does not want people at the club, who would actually, for real kick their granny, and talking about the 1980's, he's clearly talking about mental strength, spirit and desire, that he seems to think is missing in so many young players coming through today.

As for the 'No more namby pamby' well hurray for that, long held opinion of mine, and posted it from time to time, sick and tired of watching other teams supporters celebrating promotion or avoiding relegation on our ground, while we've either missed or gone down ourselves.

Fed up to the back teeth of looking at League 1 and 2, littered with clubs who 20 years ago were the flower pot league, while we're deservedly, where we are . Our club is a soft touch, never forgotten queuing up for tickets for the Stevenage play-off final, with our fans complaining why Stevenage fans could buy tickets for which section wanted to go in, and then a voice pipes up from the back of the ticket office; well Stevenage have broken the rules laid down for the ticket sales, really, well just how naughty was that.

Dean Edwards and Steve Breed along with the consortium have shown more passion, desire and fight for this football club in a week, than I've seen in years, stand up and take a :bow: they have my support.

:goodpost:

Deano: Director of Kick and Rush?

by SuperNickyWroe » 16 Jun 2015, 19:38

Scott Brehaut wrote: I agree with Burnhamgull about letting the new board get on with the job, but I did have to laugh at you, supes, in agreeing with him - especially given the lack of time you afforded Greavsie in his role....you were on his case even before his appointment!!
And???

Obviously the new board agree.

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by Dave » 16 Jun 2015, 19:27

As for the interview and rhetoric coming from Dean Edwards, firstly it should be seen, and is not hard to work out, a lot of what Dean said was in a "figure of speech" Dean Edwards clearly does not want people at the club, who would actually, for real kick their granny, and talking about the 1980's, he's clearly talking about mental strength, spirit and desire, that he seems to think is missing in so many young players coming through today.

As for the 'No more namby pamby' well hurray for that, long held opinion of mine, and posted it from time to time, sick and tired of watching other teams supporters celebrating promotion or avoiding relegation on our ground, while we've either missed or gone down ourselves.

Fed up to the back teeth of looking at League 1 and 2, littered with clubs who 20 years ago were the flower pot league, while we're deservedly, where we are . Our club is a soft touch, never forgotten queuing up for tickets for the Stevenage play-off final, with our fans complaining why Stevenage fans could buy tickets for which section wanted to go in, and then a voice pipes up from the back of the ticket office; well Stevenage have broken the rules laid down for the ticket sales, really, well just how naughty was that.

Dean Edwards and Steve Breed along with the consortium have shown more passion, desire and fight for this football club in a week, than I've seen in years, stand up and take a :bow: they have my support.

Deano: Director of Kick and Rush?

by Scott Brehaut » 16 Jun 2015, 19:20

SuperNickyWroe wrote: :goodpost:
I agree with Burnhamgull about letting the new board get on with the job, but I did have to laugh at you, supes, in agreeing with him - especially given the lack of time you afforded Greavsie in his role....you were on his case even before his appointment!!

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by Dave » 16 Jun 2015, 19:03

notexactlyshakespe wrote: The reason those of us who chose the round ball code as youngsters prefer football is because of the artistry, athleticism, speed and vision it encourages; the reason modern coaches like Chris Hargreaves are succeeding (viz Eddie Howe at Bournemouth) is because they value skill and respect their players. Recall Hargreaves from gardening leave immediately. Unfortunately, defensive coach, Lee Hodges, has proved to be not up to the job at this level so he need not put away his spade just yet but Ken Veysey has a really good record in bringing out the best from his charges and deserves to return from the allotment.
Oh please !! The only thing Chris Hargreaves was succeeding at, was being the 4th worst manager in our club history, with just little more effort he could have passed Cornforth and Kubick that's how close it was.

Athleticism, agreed, after all regardless of the level we play at, we employ professional footballers. So why did CH consistently field a team with one player in it, who was, well, fat, and others border line over weight, the entire team was unfit, where was the total football under Hargreaves ? I most have gone the wrong ground, all I saw, was Downes HOOF, Richards HOOF,, and a team not capable of completing a pass longer than 3 yards, with the exception of Luke Young.

The only coach I have any sympathy for is Kenny Veysey, and very good keeper coach, saw him work many a time, and given long and loyal service to the club, unfortunately for Kenny with the likely hood of only two keepers next season, probably no need for a keeper coach.

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by OllieGull » 16 Jun 2015, 17:54

If unattractive football means good results, and a higher chance of getting out of this division (ideally up), then I wouldn't mind paying to watch it.

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by Richinns » 16 Jun 2015, 17:50

Without them we would not have any football to watch. I too have worries about some of Deano's comments but I am happy to reserve judgment and stay positive.

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by Gullscorer » 16 Jun 2015, 17:18

Nothing in life is certain, so whatever it takes to win us games and points and promotion will bring in the crowds, is alright by me.
Boring kick and rush (or artistry + athleticism + speed + vision) +wins + points = big crowds + promotion.
Artistry + athleticism + speed + vision (or boring kick and rush) + draws and defeats = low attendances + relegations + administration.
My point being that the only important thing is promotion, regardless of how we get there. Plus perhaps a great FA Cup run.
(That's two important things)..!! :-D

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by SuperNickyWroe » 16 Jun 2015, 17:08

Burnhamgull wrote:It never takes long for some to be negative. :devil:

How about keeping quiet and letting the new board get on with the job.
:goodpost:

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by Sunnysideup » 16 Jun 2015, 16:55

notexactlyshakespe wrote:I'm certainly not moaning, Brucie, simply reacting to Dean Edwards' manifesto. I, too, hope that he's not as good as his word because people will not pay good money to watch rubbish as Alan Knill's time in charge proved.
Perhaps you should look at the attendance figures before making a sweeping generalisation?
The only time crowds dropped below 2000 were after Knill was sacked. As for last season, under the Hargreaves brand of flowing attractive football, more gates were under 2000 than over it. Feel free to check the attendance figures if you doubt it.

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by Burnhamgull » 16 Jun 2015, 16:37

It never takes long for some to be negative. :devil:

How about keeping quiet and letting the new board get on with the job.

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