by Dave » 15 Sep 2015, 19:43
arcadia wrote:
Lavercombe has not done this he has made a mistake but gets over over it what your talking about is rubbish Lavercombe may only get about £100,000 if he is able to continue his progress. Lavercombe will have clubs watching I assure you now it's up to him if he is picked. The sale on clause is what will make the money for Torquay but lets leave him to prove to everyone he's the player we want him to be.
The club would not be playing him to save the club we would be playing him because he's the best keeper in the club. lavercombe is special!
JUST REMEMBER Banks made his debut at 21, Clements at 18, Mervyn Day at 18 I'm not saying Dan is a Banks but given the chance why not!
The trouble with this country not enough youngsters are played whilst they are young to learn off of the star players at a high level but when they do get the chance we see a gem if they are treated right.
I just do not understand why you can not fathom where I'm coming from, I AM NOT DENYING THE TALENT AND POTENTIAL OF DAN LAVERCOMBE. For someone who claims to be an ex-professional, a manager and scout, you really show such a lack of knowledge and a scant disrespect for young and upcoming players, truly worrying, English footballing graveyard is absolutely full players in there late 20's who'd showed great potential as teenagers, players who had their careers destroyed, because of the clamour in this country to find the next big thing, players who were mishandled, subjected to much weight of expectation an pressure to young, players who ended up with over-use injuries. Just look at Jack Wilshere, Theo Wallcot, and so,so many more, and we wonder why their injured all the time.
I look towards countries like Spain, Germany and others with real jealousy, we ask why they can develop players and we can't in this country, just have to look at the education and development programmes, Spanish and German players are "not" subjected to 38 x 90 minutes of football until their at least 21, they tend play a lot of "B" team football, and are introduced gradually and slowly into first team football as U21's.
I'm glad you mentioned Mervyn Day and Ray Clemence, two perfect examples.
Mervyn Day, yes did make his debut at 18. A player described in the press as the new "boy wonder" experts and pundits alike, said, he'd go on to be the finest keeper ever known in this country, would be an England ever present. England caps 0 , Mervyn Day ended playing 397 games in division 2 (championship) personal honours, 1x F.A cup winners, 1X division 2 winners medal, a player who's career was destroyed by injuries and a massive loss in form, highly likely to have been caused by far to much pressure an expectation placed on his shoulders at a very early age.
A real stark warning of what can happen when a young player is not handled correctly.
Ray Clemence, yes another player who made his debut at 18 for Scunnie, however, he did not play regular first team football until the age of 22 at Liverpool, and player who was handled correctly, developed gradually and looked after. Clemence, England caps 61 , won every single major domestic and European honours more than once.
A player that went on to be everything Mervyn Day should have been but wasn't.
All I'm saying is, to thrust Dan Lavercmbe into first team action in the hope of selling him because our clubs desperate for a few quid, would be, both a disgusting and diabolical miss-use of a young talented player. Torquay United and Paul Cox have a duty of care to look after all our young players, especially young Dan Lavercombe, so hopefully one day, us TUFC fans can look on with pride as we watch him on match of day playing for atop premier league club, not look back in ten years and see Dan Lavercombe become the next Saul Halpin .
Do you get it now ?
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arcadia wrote:
I'm sorry but I agree with most you have said but I believe and could be wrong that Speiss signed as no.1 because since he signed Lavercombe has not played even though Speiss made mistakes at Tiverton and his first home game as I said previously lets put it to
bed.
[quote="arcadia"]
[color=#0000FF]Lavercombe has not done this he has made a mistake but gets over over it what your talking about is rubbish Lavercombe may only get about £100,000 if he is able to continue his progress. Lavercombe will have clubs watching I assure you now it's up to him if he is picked. The sale on clause is what will make the money for Torquay but lets leave him to prove to everyone he's the player we want him to be.
The club would not be playing him to save the club we would be playing him because he's the best keeper in the club. lavercombe is special!
JUST REMEMBER Banks made his debut at 21, Clements at 18, Mervyn Day at 18 I'm not saying Dan is a Banks but given the chance why not!
The trouble with this country not enough youngsters are played whilst they are young to learn off of the star players at a high level but when they do get the chance we see a gem if they are treated right[/color].[/quote]
I just do not understand why you can not fathom where I'm coming from, I AM NOT DENYING THE TALENT AND POTENTIAL OF DAN LAVERCOMBE. For someone who claims to be an ex-professional, a manager and scout, you really show such a lack of knowledge and a scant disrespect for young and upcoming players, truly worrying, English footballing graveyard is absolutely full players in there late 20's who'd showed great potential as teenagers, players who had their careers destroyed, because of the clamour in this country to find the next big thing, players who were mishandled, subjected to much weight of expectation an pressure to young, players who ended up with over-use injuries. Just look at Jack Wilshere, Theo Wallcot, and so,so many more, and we wonder why their injured all the time.
I look towards countries like Spain, Germany and others with real jealousy, we ask why they can develop players and we can't in this country, just have to look at the education and development programmes, Spanish and German players are "not" subjected to 38 x 90 minutes of football until their at least 21, they tend play a lot of "B" team football, and are introduced gradually and slowly into first team football as U21's.
I'm glad you mentioned Mervyn Day and Ray Clemence, two perfect examples.
Mervyn Day, yes did make his debut at 18. A player described in the press as the new "boy wonder" experts and pundits alike, said, he'd go on to be the finest keeper ever known in this country, would be an England ever present. England caps 0 , Mervyn Day ended playing 397 games in division 2 (championship) personal honours, 1x F.A cup winners, 1X division 2 winners medal, a player who's career was destroyed by injuries and a massive loss in form, highly likely to have been caused by far to much pressure an expectation placed on his shoulders at a very early age.
A real stark warning of what can happen when a young player is not handled correctly.
Ray Clemence, yes another player who made his debut at 18 for Scunnie, however, he did not play regular first team football until the age of 22 at Liverpool, and player who was handled correctly, developed gradually and looked after. Clemence, England caps 61 , won every single major domestic and European honours more than once.
A player that went on to be everything Mervyn Day should have been but wasn't.
All I'm saying is, to thrust Dan Lavercmbe into first team action in the hope of selling him because our clubs desperate for a few quid, would be, both a disgusting and diabolical miss-use of a young talented player. Torquay United and Paul Cox have a duty of care to look after all our young players, especially young Dan Lavercombe, so hopefully one day, us TUFC fans can look on with pride as we watch him on match of day playing for atop premier league club, not look back in ten years and see Dan Lavercombe become the next Saul Halpin .
Do you get it now ?
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[quote="arcadia"]
I'm sorry but I agree with most you have said but I believe and could be wrong that Speiss signed as no.1 because since he signed Lavercombe has not played even though Speiss made mistakes at Tiverton and his first home game as I said previously lets put it to
bed.[/quote]
:) :)
