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SteveDeckchair wrote:Back on topic. No.

Southampton Gull wrote:He's done a marvellous job for them but the majority of City fans would rather he left, strange.........................

Kit_robin wrote:On the subject of Nicholson it is undeniable that the team that has played the last two games is probably our strongest 11. But this isn't just because Nicholson has dropped himself, it's because he has brought in players like racchi, Allen, Rees and Ajala.

For one reason or another (injury, cup tied, signed at different times) the last two games have been the first time they're all available - and nicho did the right thing in dropping himself.

Before that however, I think he was right to play. Not because he's brilliant (he often got beaten, although he wasn't as bad as some people say), but because playing himself and butler was a stronger combination than playing butler at left back and, say, Sam Chaney in midfield. Other than Chaney he would have had to play a centre half or hancox in midfield.

He played because overal the team was stronger with butler in midfield. Now we have better midfielders the best left back is playing at left back. Pretty simple really.

chunkygull wrote:I would be so unbelievably happy if that scenario happens, I want TUFC to succeed. However I dont feel we will stay up with Nicholson in charge and I was very vocal about that even before he was appointed when rumours were flying around.

If he proves me wrong then great and I will swallow humble pie and admit I was wrong. Does either staying up, winning the FA trophy or both automatically mean we should keep him on with out looking at other options though.

The worst thing about having him is the fact he insists on picking himself in the starting line up and doesnt look like deservedly sitting some games out anytime soon. I can understand it in the trophy where the squad doesnt have many options but there could be a much stronger line up in the league without him. You only have to look around the internet to see each week the supporters prefered line ups and Nicholson rarely features in any of them. To pick yourself and put yourself ahead of the teams real needs and to the detriment of the team is negligent, egotistical, vain, delusional, selfish and very poor.

Kit_robin wrote:On the subject of Nicholson it is undeniable that the team that has played the last two games is probably our strongest 11. But this isn't just because Nicholson has dropped himself, it's because he has brought in players like racchi, Allen, Rees and Ajala.

For one reason or another (injury, cup tied, signed at different times) the last two games have been the first time they're all available - and nicho did the right thing in dropping himself.

Before that however, I think he was right to play. Not because he's brilliant (he often got beaten, although he wasn't as bad as some people say), but because playing himself and butler was a stronger combination than playing butler at left back and, say, Sam Chaney in midfield. Other than Chaney he would have had to play a centre half or hancox in midfield.

He played because overal the team was stronger with butler in midfield. Now we have better midfielders the best left back is playing at left back. Pretty simple really.

Glostergull wrote:russian. and chunky. both of you show that you haven't really even seen how we play as admitedly you have heard from secondhand sources. come on and see us play for 3 games and then in all honesty that he is the weakest element. Nico has brought discipline to a team that previously had none. they need shipping out and we have bargain basement players in bar one or two. tell me who you would appoint as manager for the money that we can afford. bet you can't

RussianGull wrote:Chunky, agree with what you're saying mate. His appointment was lazy, his performances (admittedly from second hand sources) have been poor both on and off the pitch, yet he still picks himself ahead of others. Despite this, we have little choice but to support him and his (because surely they are now all 'his' players) players.
When relegation comes, it'll be a sad day but it won't be the end.

forevertufc wrote:A massive climb down in expectations that's for sure, but there has to be clear separation between the "old" and "current" board. The reasons why our expectations have gone down the plug hole are not the fault of the likes of Dave Phillips or Steve Breed, they're the people who came in and have had to fight tooth and nail to keep this club running, they've suffered the consequences of the actions of those who went before, Bill Phillips knew very well the academy would have to close, did a great job of engineering the blame on the new board in my view, spending money the club didn't have and turning to Thea every point and turn to cover the losses they were racking up.

Both Phillips and Breed have been on the wrong end of some real dogs abuse, and deserve the upmost praise for keeping their dignity in tact, when they could easily have gone public told the harsh truth, airing some pretty dirty washing along the way, fair play to them for keeping their powder dry, in the same situation I wouldn't have done.

Spending £200k on a training of which a large percentage is still not fit for purpose today is one of reasons why our club is where it is now, the new board have had no other choice but to bring the club back into a position where it lives off it's income, it no doubt will take years to recover, but if us fans stop crying, and start getting behind the club, we'll get there a damn sight quicker.