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by ferrarilover » 25 Oct 2016, 19:56

TUFCforeverlover wrote:Hi Matt

I am pleased to see your return to the forum as you offer a strong range of opinions.

My question to you (quite simply) is whether or not you are willing to step up to the task and actually use your undoubted energy towards the future prospects of the club. If so, please respond to the post accordingly and I will look to get in contact with you in due course should this be required.

As you will no doubt appreciate, it is hugely important at the current time that we harness the enthusiasm from those people who wish to focus on the long term wellbeing of the club. We can all post negative comments but if you truly wish to help towards the club in the long term please let me know as I am sure you will prove really useful
If I weren't such a mild-mannered fellow, I'd take umbrage at the implication of your post that I don't presently use my efforts towards advancing the fortunes of the club. Fortunately for you...

Sorry, having to take a short break to explain that I had meant to use the Pulp Fiction quote here, but I can't remember how it goes...

Yeah, let me know what you had in mind and who the hell you are and I'll do m'best for you.

Matt.

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by TUFCforeverlover » 25 Oct 2016, 18:06

Hi Matt

I am pleased to see your return to the forum as you offer a strong range of opinions.

My question to you (quite simply) is whether or not you are willing to step up to the task and actually use your undoubted energy towards the future prospects of the club. If so, please respond to the post accordingly and I will look to get in contact with you in due course should this be required.

As you will no doubt appreciate, it is hugely important at the current time that we harness the enthusiasm from those people who wish to focus on the long term wellbeing of the club. We can all post negative comments but if you truly wish to help towards the club in the long term please let me know as I am sure you will prove really useful

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by ferrarilover » 25 Oct 2016, 15:17

Yaaaay, TUST getting the club, that's great news...

20 players, a manager, an assistant, a physio, a kitman, a groundsman, a stadium manager and a receptionist. 27 employees at £300/week on average. That's £32,400/month in wages alone. Plus NI, pensions, insurance, gas, electricity, water, admin, expenses, phone, internet, stewarding, contingency, depreciation, sundries, Sky TV, stock, bar staff, programme production, policing, St Johns donations, repairs and maintenance. The list is almost without end. It will cost £100,000/month to run our club to its full extent. More if you actually want us to do anything other than stay 16th in the Conference. Community ownership, like communism, is great on paper, but it simply won't work. Torbay really is the arsehole of the UK. Full of penniless pensioners and out-of-work scum. Quite where this money is supposed to come from, no one has yet satisfactorily explained. Yes, I get it, the TUST runs some lottery thing where you can win a pint of real ale and a scratchcard, but that is hardly going to generate the sort of income needed to run a football club.

We don't need a dozen or so well meaning but ultimately ill-equipped and underfunded busybodies, we need a Dale Vince or a Pete Masters. Someone willing to chuck millions of pounds about the place with gay abandon. Someone who has run a business before and made a bloody success of it, not a cab driver (hi Nina - if I ever buy the club, you're getting your own stand!), a bouncer (hi Dave - not making Eastleigh tonight, sorry!) and a retired copper from Paris or wherever (hi Scott - good show by the England boys in the end!)

Yes, it's very sad that it'll never happen, but when a club is simply not popular, it's not popular. Have a look at Burton, they still only get 4000 or so in the Championship. People in Burton, as people in Torquay, just don't give a shit about football. That's how it'll always be. Newcastle could manage it, as could Villa and maybe QPR, but the chances of us being sustainably run by donations alone in the position we are in now is absolutely zero.

Might as well give it to me and let me have a bash, I don't have £100,000/month going spare either.

Matt.

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by MF68 » 23 Oct 2016, 16:50

And assuming we haven't repaid this or any other amount by January does the Club become GI property as suggested previously on the forum??

Perhaps their is no chance and the Board are turning to TUST as a last resort and I don't mean that negatively to TUST, just that previously the board did not talk to them or some would say even recognise them.

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by Gloomy Gull » 22 Oct 2016, 21:54

If that is true ......WHAT has more than $50k ( in American airport and no sterling sign!!!) been spent on? Not the squad that is for sure.

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by TUST_Member_Rob » 22 Oct 2016, 20:14

MF68 wrote:does anyone know if the £50k has been paid to GI yet ??
Unfortunately rumour has it we bored alot more than that

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by MF68 » 22 Oct 2016, 18:43

does anyone know if the £50k has been paid to GI yet ??

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by Southampton Gull » 20 Oct 2016, 06:10

Masters is bringing his Truro team to play their home games at Plainmoor so he shouldn't be a problem in the short term.

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by gullpower » 19 Oct 2016, 22:29

Whoops, quoted myself instead of editing now can't delete.

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by gullpower » 19 Oct 2016, 22:27

uffculmegull wrote: ...we are not a rich, high earning area.
I don't think anyone in TUST thinks that it would be easy but it would be better than not having a club at all. At least the club would be safe from property developers and asset strippers like Peter Masters. However, I think there are enough business savvy and astute people in TUST to do the job.

Also, although we do not live in a high earning area, Torquay is a great club with a long history and has fans all over the country (the world in fact - including Brazil!) that would support a community share issue.

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by uffculmegull » 19 Oct 2016, 21:37

Agree fully with your sentiments Lucy, however I still have grave misgivings about community ownership although if the alternative is adminstration I will sing the praises of such a model. There are no white knights waiting in the wings that is obvious, probably a few vultures though. My problem is that there are no successful community owned clubs, I do not mean successful in terms of declaring big end of year profits but I do mean the possibility of promotion. Yes I am sure that if the TUST or some other community owned body took over the club and called for a big financial contribution from the fans , as a one off event it would be a success, then what, where would the continuing finance come from to continue the progression, we are not a rich, high earning area. We get little or no support from the council, we would be hard pushed to qualify for lottery funding.
Football clubs suck up money like sponges with very little return especialy in the lower eschelons and without a constant revenue stream not connected or dependent on successful cup runs or feet through the turnstiles then we along with many other clubs will struggle or tetter on bankcruptcy.
Which ever model takes us forward they must realise very early on that saturdays is only one of seven days in the week that we need to raise money and throughout the year not just the football season, as yet how small clubs generate cash on the other days of the week unless you have a five star hotel or michelin star restaurant within the ground remains a mystery.

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by tomogull » 19 Oct 2016, 21:20

tomogull wrote: I hope you mean 2016, Magpie ....... :|
Maybe your original date is nearer the mark, Magpie. That's assuming we still have a club to support in 2017 ...... :'( :'(

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by PhilGull » 19 Oct 2016, 21:02

TUST email this evening says that they and the club will be making an announcement next week. Hopefully things will become clearer after that.

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by lucy6lucy » 19 Oct 2016, 20:35

uffculmegull wrote:Just got a communication from the TUST to say that after the meeting with the board today it was agreed that due to the considerable amount of information that was reviewed the TUST have decided to consider their position and report back by the 31 of this month, they finish by saying "a formal announcement will be made by the club and TUST soon after this decision has been made"
Make of that what you will.
If we are to be run by TUST, then us supporters have to rally together to keep our football club substainable

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by portugull » 19 Oct 2016, 20:35

Pure speculation on my part but it sounds to me like TUST, having seen the books, have a big decision to make.

Is it feasible for TUST to manage TUFC or not?

The Board are out of time and money and cannot find a buyer.

I still do not understand why the Board do not formally put the Club up for sale and hope for a "white knight".

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