by Dave » 28 Jan 2017, 12:07
tomogull wrote: 27 Jan 2017, 14:04
Forever is spot on. It isn't only the players like Moxey and Grimes they sell for big bucks, it's also the players that perhaps might not go on to bigger clubs, but have a commitment to the club that gave them a chance. I'm not up to speed with how many of City's present first-team squad have come through the youth ranks, but I'm thinking of Christie Pym who now appears to be first choice keeper ahead of Olejnik and the lad up front whose name escapes me who is knocking in a few goals (he could very well be the next money-making transfer for the club). Their Youth System should be the sort we ought to be basing ours on when/if re-introduced.
Exeter City have at least 5 first team squad players maybe more, including their team captain who came through the clubs youth set up, 3 who came from TUFC's catchment area, not just Watkins, but Matt Jay, I mentioned above is a Denbury lad, and there's one other in their first team squad from Paignton, Christie Pym as you mention above I believe is from Plymstock, it just about says it all really.
It terms basing a youth set up Exeter's, to be fair Tommo, the basic workings of the academy TUFC closed was no different to City's, both had a main academy with an academy manager, and foundation lead coach in place as required, TUFC had a development centre, City a performance centre, same thing just different names, that's where the similarities stopped.
TUFC didn't have a proper scouting team in place, took the view point both publicly and privately that the talent didn't exist in our catchment area and the Southwest as whole, so didn't bother even looking that hard, a view point totally disproved 20 minutes up the road. The interaction between Development centre and main academy was virtually non-existent, Matt Williams used to go once in a very blue moon and have a look at the Ashburton based centre, did he ever go to Truro or Taunton, probably not, there used to be a once year fixture between the two, I once watched the then U13 development squad rip the main academy team a new one, yet only two players were promoted up from that development squad.
That's the difference, Exeter have a very active scouting team, who are not scared to cross into other clubs catchment areas and take the best players, there is regular interaction between their academy and performance centres players, players from their performance centres are often sent to academy training for assessment, players who are struggling on certain aspects of their development are sent into the performance centres, and given time to improve, so they keep their players with in their youth set up.
If Geoff Harrop does start up a new form of youth set up, hopefully he'll be a little more proactive in scouting, though any youth setup started by the club now, isn't going to be that attractive to join, to be fair.
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Forever is spot on. It isn't only the players like Moxey and Grimes they sell for big bucks, it's also the players that perhaps might not go on to bigger clubs, but have a commitment to the club that gave them a chance. I'm not up to speed with how many of City's present first-team squad have come through the youth ranks, but I'm thinking of Christie Pym who now appears to be first choice keeper ahead of Olejnik and the lad up front whose name escapes me who is knocking in a few goals (he could very well be the next money-making transfer for the club). Their Youth System should be the sort we ought to be basing ours on when/if re-introduced.
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Exeter City have at least 5 first team squad players maybe more, including their team captain who came through the clubs youth set up, 3 who came from TUFC's catchment area, not just Watkins, but Matt Jay, I mentioned above is a Denbury lad, and there's one other in their first team squad from Paignton, Christie Pym as you mention above I believe is from Plymstock, it just about says it all really.
It terms basing a youth set up Exeter's, to be fair Tommo, the basic workings of the academy TUFC closed was no different to City's, both had a main academy with an academy manager, and foundation lead coach in place as required, TUFC had a development centre, City a performance centre, same thing just different names, that's where the similarities stopped.
TUFC didn't have a proper scouting team in place, took the view point both publicly and privately that the talent didn't exist in our catchment area and the Southwest as whole, so didn't bother even looking that hard, a view point totally disproved 20 minutes up the road. The interaction between Development centre and main academy was virtually non-existent, Matt Williams used to go once in a very blue moon and have a look at the Ashburton based centre, did he ever go to Truro or Taunton, probably not, there used to be a once year fixture between the two, I once watched the then U13 development squad rip the main academy team a new one, yet only two players were promoted up from that development squad.
That's the difference, Exeter have a very active scouting team, who are not scared to cross into other clubs catchment areas and take the best players, there is regular interaction between their academy and performance centres players, players from their performance centres are often sent to academy training for assessment, players who are struggling on certain aspects of their development are sent into the performance centres, and given time to improve, so they keep their players with in their youth set up.
If Geoff Harrop does start up a new form of youth set up, hopefully he'll be a little more proactive in scouting, though any youth setup started by the club now, isn't going to be that attractive to join, to be fair.
