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Cheers mate all done

[quote=westyorkshiregull post_id=204482 time=1492961849 user_id=18627]
Where is petition
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https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/gordon-oliver-this-stadium-is-ours/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sign-pet

Where is petition

:scarf: [i][b][size=200]Keep promoting the petition[/size][/b][/i]

[size=150][i][b]4,414 signatures so far
Goal: 5,000[/b][/i][/size]

[b]I've just got a couple of big football celebrities to sign.........look out for their names this week!

They're onto the story and wanting to give it maximum publicity[/b]

With one of the bays favored candidates in the loop I can tip-toe back into my bunker where i belong.

What a great result today on the pitch.

After reading the comments on this post I have come to the conclusion this is not a good idea.

1) As sue says it is a tremendous committment of time, money and resources with a debatable outcome.

2) I do not think that this general election is going to be popular with the general public, so it is not in our interests to be associated with it.

3) standing in an election for publicity purposes would probably only work in a high profile by-election with national media attention.

4) I think it is likely that we could be accused of trivializing an important event like the general election. There is a lot more at stake than just a football club.

I didn't get the impression that Neal is putting himself forward as the 'candidate' did I?

So what he is so outraged about is that well known other person 'Somebody Else' is not going to do it instead.

[quote=Neal post_id=204216 time=1492708859 user_id=342]
Well I bet GI are laughing all the way to the bank.

We are divided on here, the handfull of posters actually on here cant agree on nearly anything.

The proposal that there are more important thingsis ridiculous. Of course there is, but if you take that view then you can say that about anything. I would expect that view from a mainstream political party. Lots of voters vote on local issues of all different kinds, thats democracy and their choice, not yours. Lets just have a candidates from conservative, labour, and lib dems then.

A big issue nationally is building on just about anything the greedy developers can get their mucky hands on. School playing fields, parks, football grounds, just about anything. We will have no open space left if it carries on.

Basingstoke play probably their last game at the camrose this week, being built on and they have nowhere to go. Terrible. Give the f#cking lot to them.

And if you think any major political party will take the issue of development on community assets as a major issue your barking mad.

I will check the manifestos when they come out.
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No, I don't believe we are divided at all. We are simply divided over the best way to go about things. That's democracy. I think we all agree on the basics: No to selling Plainmoor to GI.

Please also be aware that £500 is just for standing. I think you might get help with posting one leaflet out to all households in the Bay (although it may be that you won't get even that, these days) ... you've got to actually write and print that leaflet. I think it's in the region of 40k households, so that's 40k leaflets you'll need. You can't rely on people reading the HE (I don't*, for example) or watching the local news on ITV or BBC (I don't*, for example), and - realistically - how much coverage are you really going to get there? So you are going to have to pay to keep the message in front of people. Where's the money coming from for that? Not to mention the time commitment involved: turning up to hustings; being available for interviews and comment; setting up, as a minimum, a website; having the common courtesy to respond to any and all contacts regarding your 'campaign' (and many of those will be in writing, not just quick texts or emails); as well as keeping a gimlet eye on how much you're spending doing each of these things (spending rules are draconian, and rightly so: you must account for everything).

If the HE was published on a daily basis, and if the paper supported our stance, it might have been an idea to pitch a 'daily election diary' idea to them for the election. But it isn't and they don't. And think of the time commitment that would involve, anyway.

* I'm not unusual in that respect.

To be pedantic its not even the freehold that's being discussed in July but the leasehold.

It's not a difficult thing to understand Neal; no ~ but totally futile in such a time constrained time (a less than 7 weeks window) when key people are making very real progress in getting the right people on board such as the local MP and other candidates in the General Election........the local MP Kevin Foster is on board by the way and was a campaigning councillor in Coventry when the Ricoh Arena issue first came about correctly forecasting the problems that would lay ahead for Coventry City.

Disrespecting that election and it's serious candidates only serves to discredit those doing so in my opinion. In contrast the Charlton Athletic campaign was a serious effort to get representation on Greenwich Borough Council and succeeded. It succeeded on the main platform of it's being too ~ Charlton Athletic returned to the Valley and have a fine stadium (if not club owners) today.

[b]The campaign of pressure is working by the way. The freehold has once again been taken off the agenda for next weeks meeting and (I believe) postponed until July indicating that the report to the Mayor still isn't finalised so we have to keep everyone's eye on the ball through the close season when less attention is on the club because they simply won't be playing which again emphasises how much attention is on them during the football season and how valuable that is to a town like Torquay.[/b]

[quote=hector post_id=204223 time=1492721336 user_id=8068]
Nobody is suggesting a candidate is fielded in the hope they get elected.

That would never happen.

The suggestion is simply to field a candidate to draw attention to the club's plight. There is no need for any candidate to speak about Brexit or the NHS because fielding a candidate would simply be a piece of advertising. £500 for the message to get into every household in the bay, to have it broadcast on TV. Probably a fairly cheap piece of advertising.

Is the original poster willing to stand?
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:goodpost:

Precisely!

I give up, its not a difficult thing to understand IS IT?

[quote=MellowYellow post_id=204232 time=1492730159 user_id=22826][i][b]Legend has it that Plainmoor was built on a old Roman fort.[/b][/i] [/quote]

.....well it's got bats and there are skeletons in the cupboards. We know that; Clarke Osborne told us! :devil:

Signed.

That's more like it. Although my petition to be presented to the Council committee got enough signatures to be presented, the numbers on this petition are more representative of the fan base.

COYY!

I see that tony bedeau has signed the petition.

who was the original poster. Yes I could stand but only with an understanding that i tackle the job of MP properly. not just TUFC but transport. Health. Welfare etc. whether the bay is bothered is the question.