Flipper wrote: 11 Jul 2017, 17:39 So you haven't played then !!!
You assume; that's good enough for you then. Never played professionally because never remotely good enough. I'm now almost 65 and practical coaching is way back when and that's why I agreed to fulfil the role I carried out last season after a period maintaining talent streams for a very good development centre of an academy indeed.
I don't claim to be able to coach at the level Nicholson and Herrera do but I sure know of scores who coach to very high standards more relevant to their budget and their level of competition with years more behind them. I believe that Herrera is a Eufa A licence holder although that might not be so; but the facts are that a manager who constantly pleads poverty of financial resources really has to be able to produce with the limited hand that he is dealt and can anybody really claim that #greatescapes 1&2 are really that?
If you're happy with that return then fine; if the public of Torbay continue to support the club at the level of app 1,800 per home game then fine.
I too thought McGinty's overall performance improved as the season wore on; but he is no 'National League virgin' ~ with over 40 appearances in the league for Aldershot before he was brought in and he really needs to replicate what Angus McDonald achieved if he is to justify his history in the game.
Are you inferring that they are inferior coaches ? you ask.....I am inferring that their end product isn't very good and I am entitled to aire my opinion as much as anyone else on a public forum. Have you seen them coach ?
You say you suspect that I am a wannabee coach who couldn't make it as a player....not so and I didn't claim to coach those boys last season either if you read properly. I said I managed the project ~ putting the infrastructure together, handing all the opportunities with professional clubs for the lads to go and try if they wished and being of the utmost support to the coach as I possibly could be. My only coaching of late has been with the very young ensuring they acquired the basic skills of receiving the ball, acquiring balance and good first touch with two footedness and to be honest I have only done that under sufferance as it is not really something I wanted to be doing at my age.
I agree; coaching boys isn't the same and once you have progressed them to a point where a club has shown interest they need to adapt to a different world of football as you say and then some more if they are to progress to remaining in the picture in the competitiveness of first team football..... Yes, some will shine and kick on while others will get found out and have to drop down to lower levels of the game. I couldn't agree more, but what I am promoting is the playing of a better style of football commensurate with where you can realistically recruit from.
You believe that is from the 'kick and rush' fraternity; I hold a different view.
You watched most of the home games last season and I watched many of the away games and I would not agree with your statement that 'with the exception of a few sides most of the sides we struggled against were physical' In my opinion it wasn't physicality that found the side out it was inferior shape, organisation and ball retention. [quote=Flipper post_id=207747 time=1499794742 user_id=23681][i][b] So you haven't played then !!![/b][/i] [/quote]
You assume; that's good enough for you then. Never played professionally because never remotely good enough. I'm now almost 65 and practical coaching is way back when and that's why I agreed to fulfil the role I carried out last season after a period maintaining talent streams for a very good development centre of an academy indeed.
I don't claim to be able to coach at the level Nicholson and Herrera do but I sure know of scores who coach to very high standards more relevant to their budget and their level of competition with years more behind them. I believe that Herrera is a Eufa A licence holder although that might not be so; but the facts are that a manager who constantly pleads poverty of financial resources really has to be able to produce with the limited hand that he is dealt and can anybody really claim that #greatescapes 1&2 are really that?
If you're happy with that return then fine; if the public of Torbay continue to support the club at the level of app 1,800 per home game then fine.
I too thought McGinty's overall performance improved as the season wore on; but he is no 'National League virgin' ~ with over 40 appearances in the league for Aldershot before he was brought in and he really needs to replicate what Angus McDonald achieved if he is to justify his history in the game.
Are you inferring that they are inferior coaches ? you ask.....I am inferring that their end product isn't very good and I am entitled to aire my opinion as much as anyone else on a public forum. Have you seen them coach ?
You say you suspect that I am a wannabee coach who couldn't make it as a player....not so and I didn't claim to coach those boys last season either if you read properly. I said I managed the project ~ putting the infrastructure together, handing all the opportunities with professional clubs for the lads to go and try if they wished and being of the utmost support to the coach as I possibly could be. My only coaching of late has been with the very young ensuring they acquired the basic skills of receiving the ball, acquiring balance and good first touch with two footedness and to be honest I have only done that under sufferance as it is not really something I wanted to be doing at my age.
I agree; coaching boys isn't the same and once you have progressed them to a point where a club has shown interest they need to adapt to a different world of football as you say and then some more if they are to progress to remaining in the picture in the competitiveness of first team football..... Yes, some will shine and kick on while others will get found out and have to drop down to lower levels of the game. I couldn't agree more, but what I am promoting is the playing of a better style of football commensurate with where you can realistically recruit from.
You believe that is from the 'kick and rush' fraternity; I hold a different view.
[b]You watched most of the home games last season and I watched many of the away games and I would not agree with your statement that 'with the exception of a few sides most of the sides we struggled against were physical' In my opinion it wasn't physicality that found the side out it was inferior shape, organisation and ball retention. [/b]
