Torquay United Fans Forum

tomogull wrote: 21 Aug 2017, 18:12 Very good post Jack. I'm with you all the way. I've noticed that you've been missing on here for a little while. As your posts are normally reasoned and well thought through, it's good to see you back.

Jack wrote: 21 Aug 2017, 10:11 I have been disappointed but not surprised at some of the vitriol and bile directed at Nicho.
I have never managed a football team at any level but prior to retirement I spent 30+ years managing people. When I was 33 I upped sticks from Torbay, moved 200 miles and took on a job managing a department of 50+ people. I was young, enthusiastic and keen to succeed. I was also stubborn, pig headed and my immediate boss was generally disinterested in his job and gave me minimal help and guidance. With the benefit of hindsight I would have done a lot of things differently and whilst I wasn't sacked I am sure that if I had been in the public eye as football managers are, there would have been plenty of criticism of my performance.
I have a lot of sympathy for Nicho because I have been there in my working life. Like him I always looked to develop people who worked for me and that is one of the most satisfying aspects of people manager. In his two years as manager he has helped a number of players improve themselves most notably perhaps Angus MacDonald who changed from a petulant child on the pitch to a seasoned pro in half a season.
Whatever Nicho decides to do and his life skills fit him for many roles I hope that it works for him. If he remains in football management I hope that he finds a club that really appreciates his enthusiasm and effort and that there is someone in the Boardroom or on the Coaching staff who can mentor him and challenge him when needed. Go for it Nicho!

kevgull wrote: 21 Aug 2017, 07:49 Always look on the bright side of life.
5 games gone and were only 8 points off a Play Off spot!

merse btpir wrote: 21 Aug 2017, 11:19 You should realise that to a happy clapper anything short of sycophancy is 'vitriol and bile'; the very simple FACT of the team on the pitch being at the wrong end of the table ~ indeed one point from fifteen is the current predicament ~ and of having signed players not physically able to even start the season is totally lost on the.........in the real world such things do get managers sacked.

SenorDingDong wrote: 21 Aug 2017, 10:39 I haven't seen much vitriol and bile, just about 50% of people saying that Nicho should have gone and it was the right decision.

Jack wrote: 21 Aug 2017, 10:11 I have been disappointed but not surprised at some of the vitriol and bile directed at Nicho.
I have never managed a football team at any level but prior to retirement I spent 30+ years managing people. When I was 33 I upped sticks from Torbay, moved 200 miles and took on a job managing a department of 50+ people. I was young, enthusiastic and keen to succeed. I was also stubborn, pig headed and my immediate boss was generally disinterested in his job and gave me minimal help and guidance. With the benefit of hindsight I would have done a lot of things differently and whilst I wasn't sacked I am sure that if I had been in the public eye as football managers are, there would have been plenty of criticism of my performance.
I have a lot of sympathy for Nicho because I have been there in my working life. Like him I always looked to develop people who worked for me and that is one of the most satisfying aspects of people manager. In his two years as manager he has helped a number of players improve themselves most notably perhaps Angus MacDonald who changed from a petulant child on the pitch to a seasoned pro in half a season.
Whatever Nicho decides to do and his life skills fit him for many roles I hope that it works for him. If he remains in football management I hope that he finds a club that really appreciates his enthusiasm and effort and that there is someone in the Boardroom or on the Coaching staff who can mentor him and challenge him when needed. Go for it Nicho!

Southampton Gull wrote: 21 Aug 2017, 10:39 He wasn't ready or willing to be their yes man and has paid the price.

Jack wrote: 21 Aug 2017, 10:11 I have been disappointed but not surprised at some of the vitriol and bile directed at Nicho.

Jack wrote: 21 Aug 2017, 10:11 I have been disappointed but not surprised at some of the vitriol and bile directed at Nicho.
I have never managed a football team at any level but prior to retirement I spent 30+ years managing people. When I was 33 I upped sticks from Torbay, moved 200 miles and took on a job managing a department of 50+ people. I was young, enthusiastic and keen to succeed. I was also stubborn, pig headed and my immediate boss was generally disinterested in his job and gave me minimal help and guidance. With the benefit of hindsight I would have done a lot of things differently and whilst I wasn't sacked I am sure that if I had been in the public eye as football managers are, there would have been plenty of criticism of my performance.
I have a lot of sympathy for Nicho because I have been there in my working life. Like him I always looked to develop people who worked for me and that is one of the most satisfying aspects of people manager. In his two years as manager he has helped a number of players improve themselves most notably perhaps Angus MacDonald who changed from a petulant child on the pitch to a seasoned pro in half a season.
Whatever Nicho decides to do and his life skills fit him for many roles I hope that it works for him. If he remains in football management I hope that he finds a club that really appreciates his enthusiasm and effort and that there is someone in the Boardroom or on the Coaching staff who can mentor him and challenge him when needed. Go for it Nicho!

Southampton Gull wrote: 21 Aug 2017, 08:16Why do GI want a mid-table finish?

Southampton Gull wrote: 21 Aug 2017, 08:16 I'm neither naive nor too complacent to understand that the beleagured manager was given a budget and told that he needed to achieve a mid-table finish. That alone would tell any understanding person that GI don't give a shit and just want to hoodwink fans into believing in their "vision" for the club. Why do GI want a mid-table finish? Because it keeps us all thinking life under them ain't so bad. Let's see if they invest in an experienced management team or just another "cheap option".