All we are saying, is give us the awayend!

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Re: All we are saying, is give us the awayend!

by Awayday » 21 Apr 2011, 09:58

Trojan - Not sure what they roof materials are made of, but they are both totally different design.

The popside has a upside down V shape where as the awayend is just a one angled / shape.
I can't be @rsed to go and get the plans I am only going from memory, so I apologise now if I am wrong.

Either way, I want to go back in the away end, it was more fun and sounded louder :lol: :na: :scarf:

Re: All we are saying, is give us the awayend!

by Parry » 21 Apr 2011, 00:16

It's much easier to get everyone singing in unison in the away end. I really hope that in our inevitable derby(s?) next season we create a better atmosphere than what we did against exeter in the playoffs (home and away). As a short term fix it probably just equates to more people joining in and everyone singing louder.

Re: All we are saying, is give us the awayend!

by cambgull » 20 Apr 2011, 23:42

Trojan 67 wrote: Now someone please tell me what height/width/depth has to do with volume (noise) ;-) .
:lol:

As we're on this neverending slope of sexual innuendos, it's not the size of the boat, it's the motion in the ocean. In other words, if the acoustics are cr*p, shout louder!

Re: All we are saying, is give us the awayend!

by Trojan 67 » 20 Apr 2011, 18:23

Height/width/depth. All meaningless.

The issue hear is noise (volume).

Now someone please tell me what height/width/depth has to do with volume (noise) ;-) .

Re: All we are saying, is give us the awayend!

by Fletch » 20 Apr 2011, 17:47

Trojan 67 wrote:Length v girth, oops :Oops: I mean width.
As it is, it's length AND width.
Surely length and depth in this instance? ;-)
Trojan 67 wrote:The gap in the Popside doesn't help continuity when the middle starts the "roar". When the whole of the Popside is in unison it out chants the away end every time. I know, I've been in the enclosure in the past and heard it.
I know where you are coming from with that. I can also remember the popside being very loud when standing in the enclosure in the past. I dont think that hole in the middle helps either. I was hoping the drumming would help keep people chanting in time (and the same one) but it seems not to have that effect. I still think it's because the singers are too spread out. Perhaps there should be a cordoned off area by the the halfway line of about 1/4 of the popside, make it singers only and anyone that doesnt sing or sings the wrong chant or cant keep time can be ejected by Dave or jabbed by Pauls sticks until they sing correctly? :lol: :lol:

Re: All we are saying, is give us the awayend!

by Trojan 67 » 20 Apr 2011, 17:27

Southampton Gull wrote:Well i do believe it's my round so don't be late.

If I wasn't bringing Ian I'd be tempted to stay down there for the weekend and go right on it.
:clap: :clap: :clap: and I'll be in there about 1.00pm.

Re: All we are saying, is give us the awayend!

by Southampton Gull » 20 Apr 2011, 17:24

Well i do believe it's my round so don't be late.

If I wasn't bringing Ian I'd be tempted to stay down there for the weekend and go right on it.

Re: All we are saying, is give us the awayend!

by Trojan 67 » 20 Apr 2011, 17:19

Eh ? What's 'at ? :|

I'll be in B&L to rip the bling right off your fanny shirt. :@ :rofl:

Then again, avoid is better than collision and being in the enclosure to make a scientific observation as to who out sings who, is probably the wiser course of action. :-D

Nah, :no: meeting SG in B&L is always a pleasure :clap: , even if it sometimes means ducking a dink (that is DINK, and has nothing in common with missing out on a DRINK). ;-)

Re: All we are saying, is give us the awayend!

by Southampton Gull » 20 Apr 2011, 16:59

Trojan 67 wrote:Length v girth, oops :Oops: I mean width.

As it is, it's length AND width.

The gap in the Popside doesn't help continuity when the middle starts the "roar". When the whole of the Popside is in unison it out chants the away end every time. I know, I've been in the enclosure in the past and heard it.

Your hearing is about as much use as your bladder, pipe down :lol:

Re: All we are saying, is give us the awayend!

by Southampton Gull » 20 Apr 2011, 16:58

Fletch wrote: The construction of the stands has a negligible effect, apart from the shorter length of the away end.

Oh, and if its a FACT Dave, have you some sound meter readings to prove it? If not, then its just an opinion is it not? :whistle:

Damned pedants. If it's my opinion it is FACT. Anyone denying said FACT is just being argumentative and will receive a cider-fuelled slap on friday :)

Re: All we are saying, is give us the awayend!

by Trojan 67 » 20 Apr 2011, 16:56

Length v girth, oops :Oops: I mean width.

As it is, it's length AND width.

The gap in the Popside doesn't help continuity when the middle starts the "roar". When the whole of the Popside is in unison it out chants the away end every time. I know, I've been in the enclosure in the past and heard it.

Re: All we are saying, is give us the awayend!

by Fletch » 20 Apr 2011, 16:53

Southampton Gull wrote:I don't know the dimensions etc etc but I do know the sound coming from the away end IS louder than that on the Pop, whatever the reasons it's a FACT you can't get away from.
Hence I said
What you seem to be overlooking is the simple fact that in the away end there will probably be the same number of "singers" as would be on the pop side, but in a smaller area. Of course its going to sound louder to the people in the away end. The sound doesnt have to travel as far laterally for everyone to hear it and sing in time (and the same chant).
The construction of the stands has a negligible effect, apart from the shorter length of the away end.

Oh, and if its a FACT Dave, have you some sound meter readings to prove it? If not, then its just an opinion is it not? :whistle:

Re: All we are saying, is give us the awayend!

by Southampton Gull » 20 Apr 2011, 16:35

I don't know the dimensions etc etc but I do know the sound coming from the away end IS louder than that on the Pop, whatever the reasons it's a FACT you can't get away from.

Re: All we are saying, is give us the awayend!

by Fletch » 20 Apr 2011, 16:19

Awayday wrote: Being I have dealt with accoustics in recording studios and I was there in the away end for the Histon game there are a number of differences.

-> The material of the roof it self, the popside roof absorbs the noise rather than rebounds it, where as the away end bounces it around
-> The space difference between the fans and the roof is greater in the away end which allows the sound to travel further before it is absorbed by the supporters
-> The angle of the roof, both are angled to the pitch, but the pitch on the roof on the popside seems to be a slightly less of an angle so most of the noise goes straight out into the open
-> Age of the roof, as material ages it gathers rust etc etc which absorbs the sounds rather than rebounds it. THe popside roof is probably covered in a layer of dirt and moss as well which is worse still
-> Lastly metal is not very good when it comes to sound. The popside roof is supported by tonnes of the metal struts, where the awayend has less metal due to improved methods of construction
Is that so?

1- Both are pre-formed "plastisol coated" metal roof panels.
2- Roof is the same height on both and was designed as such, so the corner between the two could be "filled in" as (and if) required. The steps are the same pitch. Feel free to count how many there are on Friday.
3- Both are built at a 6 degree pitch.
4- Maybe, give us a report after Fridays match on how much they are rusting (although plastisol is designed not to).
5- The pop side is significantly longer and also has the camera gantry on it. Of course it has more supporting struts, it has more weight to support.

What you seem to be overlooking is the simple fact that in the away end there will probably be the same number of "singers" as would be on the pop side, but in a smaller area. Of course its going to sound louder to the people in the away end. The sound doesnt have to travel as far laterally for everyone to hear it and sing in time (and the same chant).

Feel free to check the construction details on the planning applications :rules:

Re: All we are saying, is give us the awayend!

by diamondgirl » 20 Apr 2011, 14:57

Wow Paul. I'm impressed. :)

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