Torquay United Fans Forum

thebigp1 wrote: 05 Oct 2022, 06:13 It’s been obvious since the first few games of the season that something isn’t right and something needs to change. After the Wrexham game I thought it was time for GJ to go. The general consensus was that we needed to pick up 4 points from the next 2 home games and we’ve come away with 1 against 2 very poor sides.

Every manager has their time. I fully accept a new manager may not be able to change things around but how can the GJ backers keep the faith. I don’t care what he did 2-3 seasons ago. What has been seen in the first 12 games that gives you any belief we can turn it round? The performances are awful and we are going down. How long do we wait? Look at our odds last night, betting markets are very efficient and they have all picked up on how poor a side we are. The casual fans have given up, look at our attendances, they’re embarrassing.

CP Gull wrote: 07 Mar 2023, 22:01 I agree. Regardless of what you think of Gary Johnson it really doesn’t matter now. This team is clearly not good enough to keep us up and I cannot see a scenario where GJ can continue next season in that scenario. The owners/directors clearly don’t WANT to sack him and to be honest it’s too late now anyway. I understand that GJ doesn’t want to retire on a relegation- it’s a sad end to his management career (which has had many more highs than lows) but it’s “not all about him” and much as it sacking him would be a sad way to end his career …. the bigger picture is the future of TUFC. As for GJ, I sincerely doubt that he will even want to manage again - he’s had his day, but it would be selfish on his part to see this season out on the basis that he can go out on a “high” of keeping us up (unlikely). The time has come to appoint a Manager with a view to next season - someone who can hopefully see us bounce back from NLS. It would be daft to expect anyone to come in at this late stage and save us from relegation from the NL …. because quite simply the squad is nowhere near good enough and in reality both the Johnson brothers and Downes know that too. If they don’t, then they just need to look at videos of the last half a dozen games or so and look at the quite frankly pathetic number of goals we have conceded from free headers in the box! Embarrassing from a Sunday League side …. let alone a National League one!

Time for a change - but it’s too late to realistically expect anyone to turn thins around. Our only hope is too bounce back quickly next season- but that is going to be a big,big ask!

Bristol_Gull wrote: 07 Mar 2023, 21:39 Do you think GJ will stay if we are relegated? If it’s looking increasingly unlikely that we’ll avoid the drop and the manager leaves / will not be retained then why not cut the losses now and give someone else a shot?

Bristol_Gull wrote: 07 Mar 2023, 21:39 Do you think GJ will stay if we are relegated? If it’s looking increasingly unlikely that we’ll avoid the drop and the manager leaves / will not be retained then why not cut the losses now and give someone else a shot?

Bristol_Gull wrote: 07 Mar 2023, 21:39 Do you think GJ will stay if we are relegated? If it’s looking increasingly unlikely that we’ll avoid the drop and the manager leaves / will not be retained then why not cut the losses now and give someone else a shot?

Bristol_Gull wrote: 07 Mar 2023, 21:39 Do you think GJ will stay if we are relegated? If it’s looking increasingly unlikely that we’ll avoid the drop and the manager leaves / will not be retained then why not cut the losses now and give someone else a shot?

The deluder wrote: 03 Mar 2023, 14:33 My I suggest that without Uncle Clarke you would probably be supporting. Phoenix club in the Western League. Of course this is still a possibility.

midtable wrote: 02 Mar 2023, 22:39 I think everyone is frustrated and fed up. There is no need to worry about which players to keep next season because at out level just about everyone is on a one year contract. If GJ departed it is likely that a new manager would be hired on the cheap and there is no reason to believe it will be a success for the remaining games. The owners have no interest in splashing the cash which is why a lot of our ex-players are playing for other teams higher up in the leagues or Notts County. A year ago GJ was a genius now apparently he is past it. It might have something to do with the players losing confidence (think of Marcus Rashford) which can be difficult to sort out because the individual has to deal with it. When you are at the bottom of the league it is tough and every mistake receives a groan from the home crowd so you play it safe which is often why the team looks out of ideas.
Should Gary stay? Yes. Should the crowd bring in banners to make a tik tok? No.
Leave the worries until the Wrexham game but until then put up and shut up. Get behind the team just like the away support.

Mr Tea808 wrote: 01 Mar 2023, 17:23 The more I've thought about it, the more I realise how much GJ has been very "cloak and dagger" about everything, he would of got a ton of respect if back in July he'd fronted it up, EXPLAINED that this season was going to be a toughie, owned the situation and communicated with the fans, but we've been subjected to piss poor signings, and a load of talk post match, deflecting away from the result and blaming officials, and I know he must regret the day he ever said it, but the "marquee" signings line-even that was a load of bull, apparently they were never marquee signings, but they would BECOME marquee signings??, He should of explained there's not a lot of money, I'll be bringing inexperienced kids in on loan to bridge the gaps, some will work, some won't, and hopefully the senior players will see us through, Most fans would of appreciated the honesty, but the silences from him and the club, the staged managed post match questions that are cosy and easy to answer, The loanees who arrive who are meant to be the dogs b*locks yet they disappear after 2 or 3 games max, I could go on, just thoroughly disappointing.