Torquay United Fans Forum

Here's the latest prediction league update… Last game vs Dartford 3-0 LOSS

Username ----------------- ----------------- Overall Points
Incredigull ----------------- ----------------- 24
RodneyJacksRightFoot ----------------- ----------------- 24
Gullsandbeyond121 ----------------- ----------------- 20
DerekDawkinsJnr ----------------- ----------------- 19
portugull ----------------- ----------------- 19
zebgull ----------------- ----------------- 16
Cheddargull ----------------- ----------------- 15
Chelston TUFC ----------------- ----------------- 15
Dave ----------------- ----------------- 15
Louis ----------------- ----------------- 15
SuperNickyWroe ----------------- ----------------- 15
Swindon gull ----------------- ----------------- 14
UnitedinDevon ----------------- ----------------- 13
Eirik ----------------- ----------------- 12
North Curry House ----------------- ----------------- 12
notnow ----------------- ----------------- 12
Cruisinho ----------------- ----------------- 11
Hereford Gull66 ----------------- ----------------- 11
leetufc ----------------- ----------------- 11
Brewers boy ----------------- 2-1 ----------------- 10
happytorq ----------------- ----------------- 10
Hornblower ----------------- 2-0 ----------------- 10
Mr Tea808 ----------------- ----------------- 10
Sesimbra ----------------- ----------------- 10
Dave_Pougher ----------------- ----------------- 9
gullsgullsgulls ----------------- ----------------- 9
Hot Rod ----------------- ----------------- 9
MellowYellow ----------------- ----------------- 9
Midlandgull ----------------- ----------------- 9
Minneapolisgull ----------------- ----------------- 9
Dgulls ----------------- ----------------- 8
Rio Doherty ----------------- ----------------- 8
Southampton Gull ----------------- ----------------- 8
United62 ----------------- ----------------- 8
budegull1954 ----------------- ----------------- 7
tufcyellowarmy ----------------- ----------------- 7
ShropGull ----------------- ----------------- 6
Taelee73 ----------------- ----------------- 6
Admiral ----------------- 2-1 ----------------- 5
The deluder ----------------- ----------------- 5
AdrianC ----------------- ----------------- 4
Brixham63 ----------------- ----------------- 4
Brucie ----------------- ----------------- 4
Danglebert ----------------- ----------------- 4
Oil Beef Hooked ----------------- ----------------- 4
Skillsy ----------------- ----------------- 4
torregull ----------------- ----------------- 4
culmstockgull ----------------- ----------------- 3
teddiebear ----------------- ----------------- 3
Willhtq ----------------- ----------------- 3
Nick Potkins ----------------- ----------------- 2
Stickingitin ----------------- ----------------- 2
theyellowfromexeter ----------------- ----------------- 2
Vick ----------------- ----------------- 2
aggrey_25 ----------------- ----------------- 1
dawlishmatt ----------------- ----------------- 1
Jamestee67 ----------------- ----------------- 1
Kingsgull83 ----------------- ----------------- 1
numpte ----------------- ----------------- 1
Rivieratouch ----------------- ----------------- 1
SDYellow ----------------- ----------------- 1
WainwrightGull ----------------- ----------------- 1
Wolborough ----------------- ----------------- 1
DevonBee ----------------- ----------------- 0
Forest gull ----------------- ----------------- 0
Knightmaregull ----------------- ----------------- 0
markypoos77 ----------------- ----------------- 0
Paignton Gull ----------------- ----------------- 0
Saints1908 ----------------- ----------------- 0
SWgull ----------------- ----------------- 0
Wubble U ----------------- ----------------- 0

aggrey_25 wrote: 27 Nov 2023, 08:48 we wont be winning tomorrow, fake pitch i believe and an incapable side. Tonbridge could be the end.

"fake pitch" should not be an excuse. There are enough of them in this division that being unable to play on them will absolutely cost you. Most of them are...fine. If course real grass is preferable but I wish we'd stop looking at these places and go "oooh, it has a 3G pitch, we're ****"

The 'incapable side' bit is more of a concern.

Don't think many have said Osborne is the Messiah, plenty (including me) have said without him we'd have gone out of business 5 years ago.

Maybe we should have gone bust, by now we may have had a phoenix club on the up.

Were there other interested parties, it's been said there were, but did they realistically have a million a year to pump in the club?

we wont be winning tomorrow, fake pitch i believe and an incapable side. Tonbridge could be the end.

gullsgullsgulls wrote: 26 Nov 2023, 08:30 Johnson is simply the Osborne smokescreen. His ‘Captain Mainwaring’ routine combined with poor results keeps the fans’ vitriol away from the real threat to the club - Osborne.

Anyone who thinks Osborne will not screw us over just because he has spent £6m does not understand investment strategy. That is a sunk cost, he has lost that money regardless (he won’t recover it from football activities or from selling the club as a football team) and there is no point him walking away if he thinks he can make back, say, £2m from this point. A £4m loss is better than a £6m loss.

He has tens of companies involved in various “sporting” and non-sporting ventures (from solar farms, to raw materials, to property management, to land speculation), he can afford to take risks and is likely willing to accept limited losses on some if it means his overall portfolio generates profitable returns.

A pity - and misguided view - that some on here see Osborne as some sort of messiah.....

Johnson just doesn't seem capable any more of building/moulding a team and motivating them, certainly away from home, he is shuffling the pack trying to come up with a winning combination and formation every time. He'll say it's injuries , it's not, all the squad players should be able to come in and do the job. The players he signed have not got the mental toughness and desire to be better players
Unforgivable to lose three bloody nil to an out of form team who have lost their last 3 home games and must have been doubting themselves, until we show up and put in a pitiful first half , when Dartford must have thought 'not much to worry about here lads'
Let's get at them.

Not a normal training session of course but to go over verbally and on the pitch the defensive errors which led to the goals and not just in the penalty area. Though guess it's like flogging a dead horse, some players just can't take it in and learn, either that or the coaching
is poor. No idea what Downes is like as a coach, doesn't seem too impressive so far though ! Great bloke and excellent player but doesn't necessarily mean great coach.

I no longer listen to johnsons pre or post match comments, they are tripe, you would get more truth and factual content from a episode of jackanory, watching the lowlights and listening to the commentary, Dartford although being part time were more professional than us ,Johnson will claim first team injuries played their part but that is the same for every club in any league and is no excuse, and as for getting them in for training this morning ,that is the last thing we need, we seem to cop as many injuries on the training pitch as we do in comptetive matches.

Crikey, I know "highlights"/"lowlights" can be misleading but that looked like we hadn't a clue - repeated joke defending and a midfield which appeared non-existent. I think we must recognise now are a bog-standard lower-mid table team in a poor league.

Johnson is simply the Osborne smokescreen. His ‘Captain Mainwaring’ routine combined with poor results keeps the fans’ vitriol away from the real threat to the club - Osborne.

Anyone who thinks Osborne will not screw us over just because he has spent £6m does not understand investment strategy. That is a sunk cost, he has lost that money regardless (he won’t recover it from football activities or from selling the club as a football team) and there is no point him walking away if he thinks he can make back, say, £2m from this point. A £4m loss is better than a £6m loss.

He has tens of companies involved in various “sporting” and non-sporting ventures (from solar farms, to raw materials, to property management, to land speculation), he can afford to take risks and is likely willing to accept limited losses on some if it means his overall portfolio generates profitable returns.

Support grows for a new away kit after the prototype was modelled by the Gaffer

Phew! the Gaffer really taken to task in that interview - the first question was a humdinger - "Gaffer is it a case of the better team not winning?" How did Johnson keep a straight face!

Eastbourne will absolutely have more fighting spirit than us on Tuesday.They will be more up for it than us. We have no characters or talkers geeing people up on the pitch. For all their experience Moxey and Hall are both very quiet.
Lapslie talks but most of it is at the referee.

Coward does his interview on a bus