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[quote=brucie post_id=286559 time=1725487916 user_id=162]
They arnt ignoring the rule - it seems that its a policy decision not broadcast south and north games within the window. As the games tare not streamed in the first place it would suggest that its not finacially viable to do so.

You couldnt watch any national league games either within the uefa window as they are not broadcast in this country.

Of course it is easy to navigate tis via the vpm/firestick/iptv method. As has been mentioned should we get promoted it would be possible to view all games hone and away.
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My comment is for international viewers. Outside of the UK, every single NL game is being broadcast on NLTV, regardless of whether the blackout rules appy. In NLS/N they've decided to adhere to that rule even in the case of international broadcast - and when the rule does not apply (international break, midweek games) they are ony showing 'select' games at our level.

the issue for me is that the blackout rules are designed to protect attendances at those 3pm games but in the NL, with the games bring broadcast internationally, there is a way to find them without paying for them, which is problematic as means clubs could lose revenue

[quote=slay1373 post_id=286548 time=1725461720 user_id=7370]
You can watch Saturday games too with VPN, I have watched two TUFC Saturday games so far along with last nights match.
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You cant when they dont show them.

They arnt ignoring the rule - it seems that its a policy decision not broadcast south and north games within the window. As the games tare not streamed in the first place it would suggest that its not finacially viable to do so.

You couldnt watch any national league games either within the uefa window as they are not broadcast in this country.

Of course it is easy to navigate tis via the vpm/firestick/iptv method. As has been mentioned should we get promoted it would be possible to view all games hone and away.

[quote=slay1373 post_id=286547 time=1725461644 user_id=7370]
So, I live in Saudi Arabia and use IPTV out there without VPN.

At moment they are streaming every other TUFC match, currently in Croatia and watch last nights game.

The Saturday 3pm blackout doesn’t affect NLTV streaming for those of us overseas. I watched one match through their streaming and got a refund because there was a technical issue, but about 10 mins after I bought the streaming for the game, it came on my IPTV Non-League Channel, so now stick to that.

It seems DAZN and NLTV are giving each NLS and NLN alternate streaming days. But have always stated they are gearing to all games being available.

I will reiterate, the Saturday UEFA rule DOES NOT apply to streaming for those overseas.
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it doesn't affect NLTV streaming for NL games - they've decided to ignore that rule for [b]National League only[/b] ,which was the same last time we were in that division. For NLS/N they've said that they'll adhere to the blackout rules, so the games you have been able to see have been because they are outside of those windows. as I detailed in my previous post, Enfield, Farnborough, Chesham and Chippenham have been broadcast so far. Enfield and Farnborough were both on Saturdays, but before the Premier League started - which is when that Article 48 kicks in (because the rule is related to the percentage of teams in the top 2 divisions playing at 3pm)

So, you have only seen the games that were being broadcast on NLTV. For example, the last two saturday games - Dorking and Aveley - were not broadcast by NLTV and [b]therefore would not have been available[/b] to you, regardless of which moody IPTV provider you use.

This is why I put up the list of games that could reasonably be expected to streamable, based on a: Uefa Rule 48 blackout windows, and b: the assumption Torquay's game would be chosen for broadcast when that windo does not apply.

[quote=numpte post_id=286544 time=1725458264 user_id=160]
By my gambling Torquay are always going to be on it becuase of the fan base when there is an international break or midweek and that has proved to be the case as it continued what they were doing last year. I took that view and bought the month pass for £25 before Enfield and will get the 5 games in so not bad for 5er a game, plus i watch on the odd saturday afternoon conference games, with VPN. Barnet v Southend was a pretty good game.

Roll on next year, every game is on*

[size=50]*Subject to Promotion[/size]
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You can watch Saturday games too with VPN, I have watched two TUFC Saturday games so far along with last nights match.

So, I live in Saudi Arabia and use IPTV out there without VPN.

At moment they are streaming every other TUFC match, currently in Croatia and watch last nights game.

The Saturday 3pm blackout doesn’t affect NLTV streaming for those of us overseas. I watched one match through their streaming and got a refund because there was a technical issue, but about 10 mins after I bought the streaming for the game, it came on my IPTV Non-League Channel, so now stick to that.

It seems DAZN and NLTV are giving each NLS and NLN alternate streaming days. But have always stated they are gearing to all games being available.

I will reiterate, the Saturday UEFA rule DOES NOT apply to streaming for those overseas.

By my gambling Torquay are always going to be on it becuase of the fan base when there is an international break or midweek and that has proved to be the case as it continued what they were doing last year. I took that view and bought the month pass for £25 before Enfield and will get the 5 games in so not bad for 5er a game, plus i watch on the odd saturday afternoon conference games, with VPN. Barnet v Southend was a pretty good game.

Roll on next year, every game is on*

[size=50]*Subject to Promotion[/size]

[quote=Fozziefan post_id=285615 time=1723289655 user_id=24997]
Anyone have a link to watch today’s match from overseas? (Do have vpn)
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didn't see this on the day, the the Torquay-Enfield game was available to watch internationally (don't know about in the UK) and you didn't need a VPN. Nationalleaguetv.com is the website to go to. They charge basically a tenner for each game they show.

So far this season they've shown;

Enfield (h)
Farnborough (a)
Chesham (a)
Chippenham (h)

Enfield was streamable on the saturday because the Premier League/Championship had yet to start and there for the Uefa Article 48 blackout rules did not apply. Midweek games aren't ever subject to that rule, which is why all of our non-weekend games are able to "be selected" by National League TV. As mentioned already, Welling on Saturday will be viewable, because of the international break.

Looking ahead, with various international breaks and midweek games, these are the fixtures that I expect to be available on streaming;

Welling(a) - Sept 7th [color=#FF0040]international window[/color]
Maidstone (h) - October 12th
Worthing (h) October 22nd
Salisbury (a) Nov 5th
Weston-Super-Mare (h) Nov 26th
Weymouth (a) - Dec 26th [color=#FF0040]Boxing Day[/color]
Truro (h) - Jan 1st [color=#FF0040]New Year's Day[/color]
Chippenham (a) - Jan 28th
Worthing (a) - Feb 11th
Weston-Super-Mare (a) - Feb 25th
Salisbury (h) - Mar 11th
Bath (h) - Mar 22nd [color=#FF0040]international window[/color]
Truro (a) - Apr 18th [color=#FF0040]Good Friday[/color]
Weymouth (a) Apr 21st [color=#FF0040]Easter Monday[/color]

These all depend - of course - on the league/streaming provider selecting each of these games to be shown on NL TV, which as I've said before I likely given our bigger fanbase and histroy of more people[b] paying for the stream[/b]. This also doesn't take into account any postponements, rearranged fixtures. For example, the FA Cup first round is scheduled for 2nd November. If we or Chelmsford find ourselves in that draw, the game will be rearranged, probably to midweek and that'll make it 'available' for streaming.
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For reference, because I'm optimistic[/u] -
FA Cup 4th qualifying Round: October 12th (Maidstone at home, although that's already going to be streamable)
FA Cup 1st Round: November 2nd (Chelmsford at home)
FA Cup 2nd Round: November 30th (would be Enfield away)
FA Cup 3rd Round: January 11th (Would be Welling at home)

Hey, you never know!

Saturday’s game at Welling is being streamed as the big boys are having an international break:-

https://www.nationalleaguetv.com/schedule

Anyone have a link to watch today’s match from overseas? (Do have vpn)

Yep. Point taken and it's clear.

I suppose if Plymouth fans can stream a game at 3pm Saturday when they're away at Middlesbrough, then they won't make the trip to Torquay which might be a thing. So the blackout is there for a reason and it can benefit clubs like ours as well.

I'm playing devil's advocate here of course. And you can pretty much watch whatever you want whenever you want for no cost at all if you put your mind to it....

I'll take my chances! The 3pm blackout is somewhat outdated now i would say and if you travel regularly, a VPN service is very handy.

If i lived in Torquay id go to the game but i dont and the club gets some additional income from exiles like me who are living in the south east counties (but virtually hanging out in LA for an hour and a half). Its not stopping me going to Chesham on bank holiday monday which will also likely be on the telly or Farnborogh but id say that is less likely to be scheduled.

It almost goes without saying that by using a VPN for accessing geo-restricted content, you may be breaking the terms and service agreement of the streaming platform.

I'm not making any judgements here and all the info on this thread is very useful.

No VPN needed this week and i see its on live according to national league TV.

You have to pay for both. VPN has a subscription (£8 a month) and the games are a tenner. (or were last year) So yes. VPN only masks where you are (or your PC is). So for the VPN i use you get a map of the world and you select one of the worldwide servers where you want to virtually place yourself.