Chelmsford v Torquay Sat 22nd Feb 3pm

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Chelmsford v Torquay Sat 22nd Feb 3pm

by Dave_Pougher » 17 minutes ago

Not sure even GJ blamed the arena 😂, if that’s the case we’ll probably lose 6-0 Tues if the arena affects the score lol
Not picking on PW he’s doing OK , but that’s it OK, OK won’t win titles, ruthlessness does.
Lack of action & positivity from him causing concern IMO.

Side note, look out for Ollie Jenkins on Tuesday youngster creating goals like an experienced pro.Where did WSM obtain him from?
Yate Town. Players are out there,
Just saying.

Chelmsford v Torquay Sat 22nd Feb 3pm

by Dilmond » 35 minutes ago

I seem to remember a statement at the start of the season stating that our players were going to be supremely fit for the campaign ahead, but that does not seem to be the case. So the seasonal curse of injuries, (and the need therefore to have players return from injury too early) hits us hard again.

Some people's expectations for this season were not set very high, and a season of stabilization with perhaps a pop at the playoffs was considered acceptable. So yet another curse which Torquay fans continually fall under, low expectations. I personally thought we would be neck and neck with someone at the top and many points clear of the rest, and just fail at being champions in true Torquay fashion.

Yes I am aware of the situation at Torquay: new owners, new manager, new players, but the same old underachieving Torquay United!

Chelmsford v Torquay Sat 22nd Feb 3pm

by culmstockgull » Yesterday, 21:12

Dave_Pougher wrote: Yesterday, 20:43 Agreed, how could you not, good people are running the club, something that we are are all eternally grateful for.
If they hadn’t there wouldn’t be this forum, club ect.

With the euphoria of salvation comes expectation and the owners are fully aware of that but something isn’t quite correct. Anyone who was at the Boxing Day game (with all respect to Weymouth) could see we weren’t good enough to win this league, we were sussed, easily by a team that will probably be playing in the league below down next season.

Probably going to get slaughtered for this but I’m going to suggest it’s player unity, they don’t seem to be a unified bunch, players have to be a selfish breed these days but I haven’t seen our players (with exception of one or two) wanting to motivate each other the crowd. When they score at Plainmoor they always peel away to the corner of the family stand, why? So they can get maximum camera coverage.

Anyone who experienced Leroy’s training sessions at Newton Abbot would have seen how he stopped moves in mid flight and coached the team involvement, spirit and it paid off.

Rant over.

COY season ain’t over.
I agree with a lot of your posting, with a good run towards the end of last year we started to believe, backed up with comments from the manager and the owners clearly to the effect that promotion was our goal, but words are not he same as actions, we haven't started the same eleven for months and we change them very early in the second half, are they not fit, are they carrying injuries, are they not doing what the manager asks. Today, we had a 39 year old playing 90 minutes so he probably wont be able to walk for a week, a centre forward who the commentary seem to suggest was carrying an injury, Young, subbed early again as we now he is carrying an injury that only a long summer break will cure. Hayfield limping before being subbed and thats before all the other injuries. So just when we needed a strong squad for tuesday night our starting eleven will probably consist of two established cente halves, seven across the middle and hopefully but no guarantee two forwards. Also I think the reason the players rush over to the family stand is because that is where their partners and children sit.

Chelmsford v Torquay Sat 22nd Feb 3pm

by numpte » Yesterday, 21:06

Said a few times, we are short of a few players for a top of the table team. But that’s understandable given the situation in the recent past. Bit, or very disappointing to lose from 2-0 up against an average on the day, home side. Could well have been 3-1 or 4-1 up before the inability to clear the ball. I thought we played ok but as above, are just a few short. I’m not sure that’s PWs fault as some are alluding to. We’d struggle with this team in the league above.

Chelmsford v Torquay Sat 22nd Feb 3pm

by Dave_Pougher » Yesterday, 20:43

knightmaregull wrote: Yesterday, 19:55 Disappointing result but come on, we are a solvent, well run club with every chance of making the play offs and some chance of automatic. Please just take a moment to think back 10 months and reassess the hysteria. Long term, the rational view is that it's better to go up next year anyway.
Agreed, how could you not, good people are running the club, something that we are are all eternally grateful for.
If they hadn’t there wouldn’t be this forum, club ect.

With the euphoria of salvation comes expectation and the owners are fully aware of that but something isn’t quite correct. Anyone who was at the Boxing Day game (with all respect to Weymouth) could see we weren’t good enough to win this league, we were sussed, easily by a team that will probably be playing in the league below down next season.

Probably going to get slaughtered for this but I’m going to suggest it’s player unity, they don’t seem to be a unified bunch, players have to be a selfish breed these days but I haven’t seen our players (with exception of one or two) wanting to motivate each other the crowd. When they score at Plainmoor they always peel away to the corner of the family stand, why? So they can get maximum camera coverage.

Anyone who experienced Leroy’s training sessions at Newton Abbot would have seen how he stopped moves in mid flight and coached the team involvement, spirit and it paid off.

Rant over.

COY season ain’t over.

Chelmsford v Torquay Sat 22nd Feb 3pm

by Southampton Gull » Yesterday, 20:40

Taelee73 wrote: Yesterday, 20:11 Well done SG, using a defeat to prove your ‘genius’ and beat Wotton with, you’d have gone quiet last season if we’d lost today with Johnson in charge.
Nothing of the sort. I commented after listening to his after match interview which as I said contains every excuse under the sun while taking no blame whatsoever. I'm over the last manager, clearly some of you aren't. Listen to the interview and tell me I'm wrong.......

Chelmsford v Torquay Sat 22nd Feb 3pm

by Minneapolisgull » Yesterday, 20:12

Our away from has been shocking all season and this is no surprise! The only disappointing thing is we gave everyone hope by going into a 2-0 lead!
I think after last season stability was the name of the game, I am just a little disappointed with all the good will and great crowds coming into the club this year. We have not invested and strengthened. Everyone apparently Kept saying the beginning of the season we needed gates of 2000 to stay a well-run club and sustainable, So there must be some extra cash we can use! I do not buy into this no one wants to come to Torquay playing in front of big crowds larger away following in the hunt for promotion. Come on really no one want to come here!!! Let get out there and bring a couple of players in for the run in. There is still everything to play for and the games will come thick and fast.
And if there is no one permanent it's time for Warnock to call in some favours with some decent loan signings to see us through

Chelmsford v Torquay Sat 22nd Feb 3pm

by Taelee73 » Yesterday, 20:11

Well done SG, using a defeat to prove your ‘genius’ and beat Wotton with, you’d have gone quiet last season if we’d lost today with Johnson in charge.

Frustrating to lose, of course, unnecessary to have lost, of course, you shouldn’t lose a game after being 2-0 up, throwing away the chance to go up straight away, it looks like it. However most of our back line is still missing, and no one team is running away with the league. For the millionth time, you don’t build a promotion winning squad in 6 months.

Chelmsford v Torquay Sat 22nd Feb 3pm

by knightmaregull » Yesterday, 19:55

Disappointing result but come on, we are a solvent, well run club with every chance of making the play offs and some chance of automatic. Please just take a moment to think back 10 months and reassess the hysteria. Long term, the rational view is that it's better to go up next year anyway.

Chelmsford v Torquay Sat 22nd Feb 3pm

by york_gull » Yesterday, 19:37

Two up at half time, and to lose by conceding two at the death is soul destroying.

Next two games against other playoff contenders are big. 6 points and things would feel a lot better, but that is very wishful thinking!

Clinging onto the fact we have 2 games in hand on the top two, but realistically playoffs look our only chance if we are to go up this season.

Chelmsford v Torquay Sat 22nd Feb 3pm

by MoxGull2502 » Yesterday, 18:39

What can be said by PW after a week of no recruitment when bodies are low ?
And your bare bones ageing defence have just thrown away a 2 goal lead !
Thought he was reading from a previous manager script tbh

Chelmsford v Torquay Sat 22nd Feb 3pm

by MoxGull2502 » Yesterday, 18:35

Southampton Gull wrote: Yesterday, 18:32 Just about every excuse under the sun with zero culpability admitted by the manager. He's honest though....
Other site has the interview up and running

Chelmsford v Torquay Sat 22nd Feb 3pm

by Southampton Gull » Yesterday, 18:32

Guildford Gull wrote: Yesterday, 18:19 Hmmmm. I think you're going to be disappointed when you hear Wotton's interview!
Just about every excuse under the sun with zero culpability admitted by the manager. He's honest though....

Chelmsford v Torquay Sat 22nd Feb 3pm

by Guildford Gull » Yesterday, 18:19

culmstockgull wrote: Yesterday, 18:16 BBC commentary stated yet again we were very leggy second half, another game of 45 minute united and that is fast becoming our byword, but why, we haven't had a game for seven days,we are a supposed full time team in a part time league, but results and performances dictate we are not that fit. mentallly or physically. Only four subs today and all midfielders that shows how unbalanced we are as a squad, it is suggested we are trying to bring in new players, I would strongly suggest after today the club saves its money until next season because I no longer think we will make the play offs. Just because alfie pavey did not wish to sign for us this week ,was there a plan B or plan C, obviously not.
I hope Wotton in his post match does not say that this loss is hard to take or the pitch was dire or we are down to the bare bones, all of which may have a partial relevance but it also applicable to the majority of teams in our league.
Hmmmm. I think you're going to be disappointed when you hear Wotton's interview!

Chelmsford v Torquay Sat 22nd Feb 3pm

by MoxGull2502 » Yesterday, 18:17

Shocking result after being 2-0 up. Honeymoon has been over for a while. Bare bones and tired bodies and zero recruitment at this stage and this is what you get.
If the owners are serious now is the time for action.
However co commentary for me is not a priority for a joint owner ! Neither is a ‘taking flight’ production !
Cut to the chase and concentrate on getting bodies in when needed or this season is going to fizzle out like a damp firework. Time to stand up, roll the sleeves up it’s the business end. And that starts at the very top .

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