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by **Taelee73** » 07 Apr 2025, 14:05

Was certainly the quietest he’d been all season during the match, he’s normally shouting at individuals, continually getting the defence to push up or the whole team to move the ball quicker. Saturday there was a lot of head shaking, a few rants at the 4th official over time wasting and then mostly calling to Young to move into space.

I think watching the match back he will have harsher views, of the second half especially.

He has said there will be twists and turns, including us. I think he’s trying to keep a more level head at this vital part of the season, rather than rants at a ‘poor ‘ display, maybe the defeat for Worthing and Dorking drawing has just made it clear, we must win away at Truro.

Hopefully he saw the Jay needs playing in a better position as both him and Young are our most creative players and without them we offer little.

by **Dilmond** » 07 Apr 2025, 13:51

Dave_Pougher wrote: 07 Apr 2025, 08:17 Was surprised at his post match interview after Chesham, it was almost as if the manner of our defeat was expected, seemed to devoid of taking any responsibility.

I would imagine the manager has a lot on his mind at the moment, what with Truro looking 'andsom at the top of the table, and him almost expecting a defeat against Chesham!

by **Dave_Pougher** » 07 Apr 2025, 08:17

Was surprised at his post match interview after Chesham, it was almost as if the manner of our defeat was expected, seemed to devoid of taking any responsibility.

by **Dave** » 05 Apr 2025, 06:37

My post wasn't a nibble, it was a light hearted piss take of AI, there are some things you can't remove the human element from, whilst AI has many benefits, an over reliance of it, isn't a good thing.

Not sure if machine learning is that advanced, it understands footie banter

Whist on the subject of GJ, he had his failures like Peterborough and Northampton, when monies dried up he's hit brick walls, he didn't leave Bristol City for another job, he left by mutual consent, sacked at Yeovil and Cheltenham.

We all saw what happened here at TUFC when the endless supply of high quality loans dried up, last season lost 20 matchs of the back of £1 million in the NLS, GJ has proven to only be a good manager when the going is good, something AI can't see.

Back to the subject of the thread, PW may not be everyone's cup of tea, but could still win the league off less than £1 million, with a squad thrown together as he inherited 1 player, lost just 6 games in the process, however next will be a true test of PW, regardless of whether we're in the NLS or NLP this will his first summer at TUFC with a base of a squad built.

by **gullsgullsgulls** » 04 Apr 2025, 17:08

Taelee73 wrote: 04 Apr 2025, 16:12 His first two seasons were a joy........... With plenty of money to spend.
However we all saw how well GJ did with a reduced budget...............

And after Lee lost his job..!

by **Taelee73** » 04 Apr 2025, 16:12

His first two seasons were a joy........... With plenty of money to spend.
However we all saw how well GJ did with a reduced budget...............

by **Dilmond** » 04 Apr 2025, 12:58

MellowYellow wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 15:04 If we are successful in winning promotion and Paul Wotton moved on to bigger and better things who would replace him? What better way to find out then using AI technology which according to experts drives better decisions and stronger outcomes,

This is the answer according to AI tool: ChatGPT

"Gary Johnson: If not already in charge, his knowledge of the National League could help Torquay consolidate their position in the league after promotion"

This alone tells you all you need to know about 'Artificial Intelligence'

I'm with AI on this one! AI has now done some sort of test devised by Alan Turing and has beat the crap out of it, unlike 100% of humans who attempted it and failed.

Under different circumstances (owners etc) Gary Johnson would have done far better, although in his first two seasons we were promoted and then reached the playoffs!

All of us will remember an incident which happened on London Bridge a few years back, involving a football fan who followed a certain team.

This alone tells you all you need to know about 'Human Intelligence.'

by **Southampton Gull** » 03 Apr 2025, 11:59

That response also made me chuckle, Janet. Also got a nibble from Dave so AI must have a sense of humour that escapes a large section of our fanbase.

For Daves outrage at GJ the same could be said for any employee of the club or indeed any fan that gave Osborne even a penny. I gave him nothing but contempt and am just happy to be shot of him while not blaming GJ for taking money while it was on offer. I didn't hear the same kind of nonsense aimed at his immediate successor.

Back on topic, I still find the manager irritating but couldn't care less if he stays for 10 years as long as we progress as a club.

by **westbaygull** » 03 Apr 2025, 10:41

notnow wrote: 03 Apr 2025, 09:23 In my opinion this thread is unnecessary due to the potential destabilisation and division among fans and for it to spill onto the managers and players confidence. We know PW reads nonsense like this so maybe the thread has an agenda. I’m sure he is learning to ignore it though, which is a good thing for his and the players but not for our club. Cheers.

Hahaha, that did make me chuckle. As if my opinion carries any more weight than a gnat's fart. Honestly, notnow, this a forum for expressing views and opinions. If anyone at the Club is upset by any comments on any thread, they are too sensitive. There are no personal attacks, just observations. Musings.
And PW doesn't read social media, he has said so on numerous occasions, however if he does, he is most welcome to pop round for a cuppa and a dunky biscuit. No agenda here, no disrespect, but yep, I'm not convinced about his style of management.

by **notnow** » 03 Apr 2025, 09:23

In my opinion this thread is unnecessary due to the potential destabilisation and division among fans and for it to spill onto the managers and players confidence. We know PW reads nonsense like this so maybe the thread has an agenda. I’m sure he is learning to ignore it though, which is a good thing for his and the players but not for our club. Cheers.

by **Brewers boy** » 03 Apr 2025, 08:57

He's a young manager learning his trade. Starting at the bottom and working his way up.Too many jump in at the deep end and end up floundering. Rooney could have learnt something from this.

by **Dave** » 03 Apr 2025, 08:39

Right now back in the real world, Gary Johnson was the Torquay manager, under his guidance, Torquay didn't consolidate their position in the national league, in fact were relegated from it under his guidance.

So a polite description would be to suggest artificial intelligence in this case hasn't been very intelligent.

Or to be more direct would be to suggest artificial intelligence in this case has been as thick as mince

But just repeat, my dislike for Gary Johnson will always be, because he would have known the direction of travel for our club under CO and his chums, he would have known how rotten they were, yet still cosied up to them, for that in my world hell never be forgiven.

If GJ had any honour at all he'd have walked away long before CO did.

by **MellowYellow** » 02 Apr 2025, 21:21

Southampton Gull wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 19:37 AI is absolutely spot on. What an improvement over fan chat.

(Of course this post could just be to provoke discussion)

It may provoke discussion but, nevertheless, that's the name that AI threw into the ring. Of course, unlike fan chat, AI holds no bias but rather bases its decision on analytical data although I'm not sure all AI outcomes will build closer fan connections.

by **Taelee73** » 02 Apr 2025, 20:57

April fools was yesterday.

Wotton may be a seen as a gamble for any club in the FL, seeing as he’s only managed in NLS and of course having to pay us compensation as well. If we’re in the NL, I’m sure he’d want to continue the building job and get us into the FL, if he succeeds then we may need plan b.

by **Southampton Gull** » 02 Apr 2025, 19:37

AI is absolutely spot on. What an improvement over fan chat.

(Of course this post could just be to provoke discussion)

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