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Re: Owen Hargreaves

by happytorq » 08 Jul 2011, 01:26

TUFCfan wrote:I agree. Given Alberta is right next to BC I imagine he'd be more likely to go there, plus the fact that Toronto have Frings and De Guzman who can both play as a DM so don't really need Hargreaves. Toronto are pretty awful at times, though to be fair all three of their DPs didn't play in that Red Bulls game.
Actually, none of their DPs played last night; Frings and Koevermans can't play until after July 15th (transfer window) and De Guzman was injured. Still, New York were pretty good; Luke Rodgers is seriously in danger of putting himself in the frame for MVP reckoning;

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Toronto have never actually been very good; this is their 5th season and they're yet to make the playoffs. They're struggling this time around too.

Re: Owen Hargreaves

by TUFCfan » 07 Jul 2011, 21:28

happytorq wrote: Problem with that is that they're already right up against the salary cap; before Frings and Hoevermans came along they only had about $217k left - each of those will contribute $167.5k towards the cap, so you'd have to assume that they've traded somebody away to meet the cap requirements. That is on top of the $250,000 'tax' they will have already had to pay to sign a 3rd DP. So they way it appears to me, they only way the could sigh Hargreaves was either as a non-designated player (unlikely; not only does that mean he'd be earning less than $335k, he'd also be at risk of mid-season trading due to MLS' single entity structure), or by freeing up cap space, and the only way to do *that* would be shipping out De Guzman - you can only have 3 DPs per team, and the other two have just signed.

I think it's more likely he'd go to Vancouver - they only have on DP to date (Eric Hassli, whose great goal you may have seen linked in Banter Board), plus Vancouver is far closer to Edmonton - where Hargreaves is from - than Toronto is.
I agree. Given Alberta is right next to BC I imagine he'd be more likely to go there, plus the fact that Toronto have Frings and De Guzman who can both play as a DM so don't really need Hargreaves. Toronto are pretty awful at times, though to be fair all three of their DPs didn't play in that Red Bulls game.

Re: Owen Hargreaves

by Trojan 67 » 07 Jul 2011, 18:31

Fonda wrote:SVEN used to play him at right-back though. Much like using Paul Scholes on the left-wing, it was a criminal miss-use of talent.
I always wondered who was mentor to Paul Buckle.

Thanks for the insight Fonda. :clap:

Re: Owen Hargreaves

by happytorq » 07 Jul 2011, 15:20

usagullmichigan wrote:I fell asleep watching the game. No idea how they would do it but I think he wants to spend some time in Canaduh A. This is what a buddy of mine tells me who is a die Torontonian :~D
Problem with that is that they're already right up against the salary cap; before Frings and Hoevermans came along they only had about $217k left - each of those will contribute $167.5k towards the cap, so you'd have to assume that they've traded somebody away to meet the cap requirements. That is on top of the $250,000 'tax' they will have already had to pay to sign a 3rd DP. So they way it appears to me, they only way the could sigh Hargreaves was either as a non-designated player (unlikely; not only does that mean he'd be earning less than $335k, he'd also be at risk of mid-season trading due to MLS' single entity structure), or by freeing up cap space, and the only way to do *that* would be shipping out De Guzman - you can only have 3 DPs per team, and the other two have just signed.

I think it's more likely he'd go to Vancouver - they only have on DP to date (Eric Hassli, whose great goal you may have seen linked in Banter Board), plus Vancouver is far closer to Edmonton - where Hargreaves is from - than Toronto is.

Re: Owen Hargreaves

by Colorado Gull » 07 Jul 2011, 15:14

Crawley or Rovers will snatch him up!

Re: Owen Hargreaves

by Fonda » 07 Jul 2011, 15:11

It was 2006 - when he played Portugal on his own! About the most dominating individual performance i've seen - alongside that given by Becks against Greece.

Re: Owen Hargreaves

by royalgull » 07 Jul 2011, 15:08

Was Sven manager when Hargreaves had a storming tournament at centre midfield? I can't even remember which tournament to be honest. Euro 2008 maybe? Buck Knows.

In any way Chris > Owen

Re: Owen Hargreaves

by Fonda » 07 Jul 2011, 14:58

royalgull wrote:wouldn't be surprised if Leicester signed him on about 60k a week on a 3 year deal the way they are going. Sven always liked him and they are signing anyone with a pulse at the minute.
Sven used to play him at right-back though. Much like using Paul Scholes on the left-wing, it was a criminal miss-use of talent.

Re: Owen Hargreaves

by royalgull » 07 Jul 2011, 14:50

wouldn't be surprised if Leicester signed him on about 60k a week on a 3 year deal the way they are going. Sven always liked him and they are signing anyone with a pulse at the minute.

Re: Owen Hargreaves

by usagullmichigan » 07 Jul 2011, 14:48

happytorq wrote: Toronto need *somebody*, because they are rubbish - they lost 5-0 in New York last night. Luke Rodgers scored a tremendous goal.
I don't quite know how they can afford him though, because he'd have to be a designated player and they already have 3. (they signed Torsten Frings and Danny Koevermans last week, to go with Julian da Guzman)
I fell asleep watching the game. No idea how they would do it but I think he wants to spend some time in Canaduh A. This is what a buddy of mine tells me who is a die Torontonian :~D

Re: Owen Hargreaves

by Fonda » 07 Jul 2011, 14:31

Yeah I know of his Youtube efforts. Seems a touch desperate maybe? I m sure he d have had clubs (much higher up the pyramid than us) interested in taking him if he was able. The fact it hasn t happened leads me to believe he s not as fit as required.

Would love to see it, because frankly Owen Hargreaves on one leg would stand head and shoulders above every other midfielder in League 2. But of 72 League clubs that would love him in their side, we probably rank dead last in terms of geography and remuneration.

Re: Owen Hargreaves

by happytorq » 07 Jul 2011, 14:29

usagullmichigan wrote:Apparently Toronto are sniffing around him
Toronto need *somebody*, because they are rubbish - they lost 5-0 in New York last night. Luke Rodgers scored a tremendous goal.
I don't quite know how they can afford him though, because he'd have to be a designated player and they already have 3. (they signed Torsten Frings and Danny Koevermans last week, to go with Julian da Guzman)

Re: Owen Hargreaves

by usagullmichigan » 07 Jul 2011, 14:22

Apparently Toronto are sniffing around him

Re: Owen Hargreaves

by tufcbrett » 07 Jul 2011, 14:16

Sol Campbell went to Notts in league 2. You never know haha

Re: Owen Hargreaves

by portugull » 07 Jul 2011, 14:07

Fonda he has a series of videos on You Tube trying to prove he is fit again. I just feel he is so desparate to play again it might be worth a phone call. Long shot I know but nothing ventured nothing gained.

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