Lloyd Macklins chance???

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Re: Lloyd Macklins chance???

by ferrarilover » 07 Mar 2012, 22:55

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Re: Lloyd Macklins chance???

by kingsgull » 07 Mar 2012, 12:10

Lloyd Macklin WAS at the game....was with another colleague and came on the pitch.....

i still rate him and feel he deserves at least a runout like Buckle used to give Danny ....always the last 5/10 mins....

Re: Lloyd Macklins chance???

by Richinns » 07 Mar 2012, 10:45

ferrarilover wrote:Take your point Rich, and don't wanna step on you, but he was there. I agree though that there does seem to be some kind of problem with him. Shame, because he's got the framework to be a really good player.

Matt.
Fair enough and apologies for suggesting he was not there. He mind def was not on the Torquay game though!

Re: Lloyd Macklins chance???

by ferrarilover » 07 Mar 2012, 10:29

Take your point Rich, and don't wanna step on you, but he was there. I agree though that there does seem to be some kind of problem with him. Shame, because he's got the framework to be a really good player.

Matt.

ADMIN EDIT: REMOVED OFFENSIVE WORDING IN POST

Re: Lloyd Macklins chance???

by Aussie » 07 Mar 2012, 10:20

Richinns wrote:I see he was tweeting last night about the Arsenal game so could not have been at Plainmoor for our game.
Why do you think he wasn`t there? They would have deffo had the game on the big screen in the Gulls Nest as most of the office staff are Gooners and would have been up there watching both games, ours and the one on the big screen!

Re: Lloyd Macklins chance???

by Richinns » 07 Mar 2012, 10:08

I see he was tweeting last night about the Arsenal game so could not have been at Plainmoor for our game. If this holds more interest than trying to support and force his way into the team then his stay at Torquay will/should soon be coming to an end.

Re: Lloyd Macklins chance???

by popside_yidlad » 05 Mar 2012, 09:33

Macklin is not in the team as he does not apply himself properly in training. Which is one of the reasons he was sent on loan, to show him his future if continued that way. He was on bench most of time he was there safe to assume nothing changed.

As for style of play he cuts in alot more from right than most right footed wingers, linking well with striker. He just lacks with decision making. I suppose could say he is similar to walcott in alot of ways.

Re: Lloyd Macklins chance???

by brucie » 05 Mar 2012, 09:28

Macklin isn't going to get in the team - be realistic. He hasn't even made the bench for goodness knows how long.
As I have said before he is Jake Thomson without the talent.

Re: Lloyd Macklins chance???

by AustrianAndyGull » 04 Mar 2012, 21:18

Alpine Joe has named that tune in one! It would be madness to change our system when we are so used to it and we have been getting results all season so an out and out winger like Macklin would not be ideal as AJ pointed out. IMO we need to stick to the system and stick Jarvis in there. Because we play into spaces in the middle rather than someone out wide bombing on down the flanks and whipping crosses in, that is one good reason why Danny has been so effective this season. One of my major complaints about his overall game is that he never goes past a player and get crosses in choosing to cut inside all the time. This style of play has suited his game and benefitted everyone. I say keep it simple, keep it as it is and if Jarvis can fit straight in there then sweet. No need to be faffing about with formations.

Re: Lloyd Macklins chance???

by AlexGulls » 04 Mar 2012, 21:15

Theres got to be a reason Macklin isnt getting in the team (or the squad for that mater) and only Ling can answer that one. In the reserve games and other games he's played in he's looked a threat and done well. So weather its his attitude in training or he doesnt fit in to the system we play or his (rumoured) outburst on Twitter during our bad run earlier in the season we'll never know unless Ling reveals it if someone asks him.

Like others I'd be happy to see him have a chance. But I think it'll be Jarvis who gets the nod to replace Danny.

Re: Lloyd Macklins chance???

by yellowforever » 04 Mar 2012, 21:08

Maybe Ling has worked on this side of Macklin's game in training? We can't really know, and I'd be all for giving him a chance.

Re: Lloyd Macklins chance???

by tufc4life1 » 04 Mar 2012, 21:04

@alphine Joe

you made some very good points about how we haven't scored from crosses this season which is very true,
and if he does beat his man then obvious answer is play 2 up front

Mack Attack

by Alpine Joe » 04 Mar 2012, 20:50

tufc4life1 tells us twice that Macklin is an out & out winger & that is most probably correct. But most peoples opinion of a traditional winger is someone who beats his full back on the outside, gets to the byline & crosses the ball into the middle. What use would that be in our system of play ?

I had high hopes of Macklin & if it had been the old days with a Tim Sills type forward who lived off crosses then I'd be all in favour of giving Lloyd a go.
However when I've watched him his main asset seems to be running very fast in a straight line. Now just imagine if Macklin does set off like an express train up the wing. He can put over crosses all day & all night but we'd only have Rene in the box surrounded by defenders & in any case can Rene jump ?

The midfield cavalry will arrive as soon as they can, but it's just a different style to what we've been successfully playing & it would mean wholesale changes just to incorporate Lloyd. Our most successful spells this season never saw our 'wide' men Danny Stevens & Billy Bodin floating high crosses in for Rene to try to head. If we're going to try Lloyd it will have to be because he can adapt his game to suit our style, because if he wants to play as an out & out winger it's not a lot of use to us.

Robbo, Saah, Ellis etc have been great in the air from set pieces & from corners, but from general play we don't hit high balls into the box from the wing.
Firstly because we've only got one man in there & secondly because Rene doesn't get very far off the ground for some reason when he does try to jump :~D . You can probably count Tai's headed career goals on one finger also.

I'd love to see Lloyd come in & play a blinder, but he'll need to adjust his game, become an 'out & in' winger & add a bit more variation to his game along the lines of Danny & Billy at their best.

Re: Lloyd Macklins chance???

by Colorado Gull » 04 Mar 2012, 20:46

I agree with forevertufc (again as usual) about Macklin and about the system. Jarvis played well yesterday when he replaced Danny and fitted in with the system well also. Ling won't change the system and I don't see any point to. We went on that winning run with that formation and when Ling changed the system back in October/November time, the team started to gel and play well. So it's a straight swap for me, Jarvis for Danny.

Re: Lloyd Macklins chance???

by Dave » 04 Mar 2012, 20:37

Whilst I total see where you are coming from Steve/ forlife1, I would however be very surprised indeed if Martin Ling changed to system.

I got the impression listening to the game on the radio which I know is difficult, that Jarvis seemed to slot in well to the system, and reading Martin Ling's interview on the O/S he seems to think that way aswell, which leads me to believe that he wont change anything before the match, maybe during if all is not going to well.

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