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2nd in the table, 18th in attendances

by ferrarilover » 16 Jul 2013, 11:20

I thought we'd solved the bot problem?

WLY, there's a massive BT warehouse (or whatever) in Exeter, ask Louis, he'll get you a job.

Matt.

Re: 2nd in the table, 18th in attendances

by Trojan 67 » 16 Jul 2013, 10:43

Sunnysideup wrote:I suspect Mack is a bot....


What, an 'rse (bottom) ? :| :rofl:

2nd in the table, 18th in attendances

by Sunnysideup » 16 Jul 2013, 08:23

I suspect Mack is a bot....

Re: 2nd in the table, 18th in attendances

by KentGull » 16 Jul 2013, 04:24

Mack wrote: I think most of the people don't know more about the state laws so i think its better than you consult with any law firm.Before you may caught any any legal action that you surly don't want.Because they know that how to deal under a specific condition.
Sorry, I know it's very early in the morning, but what on earth are you on about? :keepie:

Re: 2nd in the table, 18th in attendances

by bobby93 » 20 Mar 2012, 17:01

NickGull wrote:Average attendances over the last decade:

02/03 - average 3131
03/04 - 3460
04/05 - 3509
05/06 - 2851
06/07 - 2633
07/08 - 3125
08/09 - 2242
09/10 - 2855
10/11 - 2630
11/12 - 2722 (so far)

All combined, our average over those years is 2916. I'd expect this seasons to end up around 3000/3100, as with any potential deciding games (Crewe, Southends a big one etc, and Accrington on Good Friday) I'll expect 3000+ from every game now really. Didn't realise we lost nearly 1000 average fans during our time in the BSP though..
Well our first year in the BSP was 07/08, so in that year we actually had a higher average attendance. I think Buckle's much talked about "ambition" actually worked in our favour here and generated a lot of interest in the team. The perhaps when we didn't make it that first year a lot of the casual fans saw us sticking around in the BSP? Plus the credit crunch was kicking in around then too.

It's nice to be getting feedback from Mr Candy on some of these points, shows the club is not just listening to the fans but actively pursuing it's own avenues of research.

I do think that with the opening of the Bench things will improve, and obviously if promotion is on the cards that could help too, but there are clearly a number of other things we can do in the meantime and it's nice to know the club realises that and is working on it.

Re: 2nd in the table, 18th in attendances

by numpte » 20 Mar 2012, 13:33

Have to agree, pop side bar should be next development on the list. Doesn't even have to be bricks and mortar and tuck it away as you say where the changing rooms are now. Have been to a few cricket games at Brizzle over the years and they have all sorts of temporary structures (beer tents) where they just line up pint after pint so limited q's and many punters. Ker ching ££

Re: 2nd in the table, 18th in attendances

by SteveDeckchair » 20 Mar 2012, 13:18

hector wrote:A model to follow is Exeter Chiefs. A club that a few years ago got crowds of a few hundred and now get between 7000 - 9000 most weeks. They whole operation is very slick with online ticketing, a tremendous matchday experience. There is a lot TUFC could learn from them.
Have to agree Hector.

The set up at Sandy Park is such that you have loads of bars all around the ground as well as different vans etc, all selling different food. Pasta, jacket spuds, pies, curry.

It really encourages you to get there a couple of hours before kick off and spend money!

Boots and Laces and the Gulls Nest are good, but it's all about choice. A bar under the pop or where the changing rooms are now would make a killing I reckon. I'd have a pint at half time for sure, whereas I can never be bothered to go and queue up in B&L.

I'd even say they need something for the new stand. Replace the catering hut with a bar as well as a food counter. Put the previous torquay game on a big screen in there.

I know we are tight for space, but we have areas that could be used. Behind the away stand? The bowling alley? The car park behind the pop? Why do we need parking spaces, when the area could be making the club money? It's a no brainer!

If we want to improve our matchday experience, we need to think along these lines.

Re: 2nd in the table, 18th in attendances

by Plymouth Gull » 20 Mar 2012, 10:58

A Candy wrote:The Focus Group that I run for the Club has been discussing amongst other issues, on line ticketing and bus/ coach service for fans. I have all the details of the on line ticketing system introduced by Cheltenham and it is very good but quite expensive . If we could find a sponsor it is something that we would like to introduce for next season. Similarly with the bus service for fans, one of the Group is in discussions with a local coach company about the possibility of running a coach from Newton Abbot on a pilot basis to see if it can be made to work on a commercial basis. Hopefully both initiatives will be implemented and as always, any one interested in sponsorship would be very welcome to make contact with me.
Regards,
Andrew
Good to see that the club are actively trying to work some of these things. If both of these things were implemented in time for the new season then I'd anticipate the gates being a bit higher. Also with the bus system, perhaps the club will make more money in B&L as there'll be less drivers... ;-)

Re: 2nd in the table, 18th in attendances

by numpte » 20 Mar 2012, 10:53

Excellent debate.

IMO reason why we are 18th in the list is due to the Grandstand and if it were not currently being built or already built we'd be over the 3k mark simply due to the large followings for a couple of games we've turned away , the limited seating for locals and the absolute pain in the backside it is to get tickets for exiles and probably locals. Having said that, we'd still only probably nudge a couple of places up.

I must admit I havn't bothered with Plymouth, Rovers etc etc as I've not been able to ensure sitting with my lad and neither have I had the desire to go in advance (300 mile round trip) to get seating tickets. Instead when I've visited I've taken in the lower profile games. Online ticketing is a must, put a charge on it per transaction to pay for it and if people dont want to pay it they can always visit in person. At least it gives them the option.

Historically, we're alwasy going to be up against it in terms of support simply due to population but these things take time and success. I think we have the right group leading the way and some interesting times ahead, new grandstand and L1.

Re: 2nd in the table, 18th in attendances

by A Candy » 20 Mar 2012, 08:23

The Focus Group that I run for the Club has been discussing amongst other issues, on line ticketing and bus/ coach service for fans. I have all the details of the on line ticketing system introduced by Cheltenham and it is very good but quite expensive . If we could find a sponsor it is something that we would like to introduce for next season. Similarly with the bus service for fans, one of the Group is in discussions with a local coach company about the possibility of running a coach from Newton Abbot on a pilot basis to see if it can be made to work on a commercial basis. Hopefully both initiatives will be implemented and as always, any one interested in sponsorship would be very welcome to make contact with me.
Regards,
Andrew

Re: 2nd in the table, 18th in attendances

by Trojan 67 » 19 Mar 2012, 23:31

Southampton Gull wrote:I think you need to stop looking at other peoples shorts mate.............

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Re: 2nd in the table, 18th in attendances

by Southampton Gull » 19 Mar 2012, 23:19

I think you need to stop looking at other peoples shorts mate.............

:rofl:

Re: 2nd in the table, 18th in attendances

by Trojan 67 » 19 Mar 2012, 23:10

happytorq wrote:All good points...a couple of thoughts

Online Ticketing - this is easy. I could get one of my developers to knock it out in an afternoon. The only possible reason that this could cause an issue is if - for example - somebody went into the shop to buy 2000 tickets at the exact same time somebody tried to buy 2000 tickets online. there could conceivably be issues ensuring that people buying home tickets are actually home supporters, but this is where the membership scheme could work out great - you're a member, you pay even a small fee of £3 to be registered, that allows you to buy tickets even if you're not local (but are a TQ fan)

Transport to Ground - sorely lacking ; I'd like to see a shuttle run in a circular route from both train stations (torre and torquay) *and* from the seafront; especially for visiting fans who often make a weekend of it. I understand there could be security issues, but that said, making sure we know where the 500 away fans are going could be quite helpful. I'm sure this wouldn't be cheap though - and I think we'd need to make it as close to free as possible to make it worthwhile. Would be nice if we could get some council assistance, but we all know that's about as likely as my oft-dreamt of threesome with Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis. [edit - maybe seafront pubs might want to contribute a bit; these fans are going to spend money!]

Home support - due to the demographics of the town; people living there and then buggering off to college (or a foreign country, heh) or people moving in from outside, our away support is always going to make the home support look poor. You're not going to miraculously find 1000 extra people to show up - unless you make it free, then you lose the money for that one game and they don't show up the following week. It's a long hard grind to improve home attendances. Results and good performances help, but so does media coverage and a positive outlook. With Bateson saying "well, we can't afford to go up" you can't really blame people for staying away; so it's encumbent upon the staff - from Chairman right down throw the playing squad to the tealady - to be optimistic and set some high but realistic goals for the club. I also think the Herald going weekly will hurt us - lack of even local coverage is disappointing. I don't know what kind of relationship we have with Devonair (or is it Gemini) and Palm FM but maybe sending Mansell along now and again to get interviewed would help. Also, pushing our story in the national media would help; who wants to hear abou moneybags Crawley or moneybags Swindon or moneybags Northampton ( :lol: )? Shine a light on what we're doing and maybe we'll get a few interested people.

What follows has nothing in common with the quoted post and everything in common with the animated avatar.

Smell it ?

You can't ?

Can you see it then ?

Watch what happens to the shorts during the black and white section.

Smell it now ?

:Z :rofl:

Re: 2nd in the table, 18th in attendances

by drummergull90 » 19 Mar 2012, 22:03

To be honest I'd much rather we were a small, well run club that retains a respectable league position and builds slowly than end up like Plymouth.

I'd love to see shuttle buses from the surrounding area on matchday. Newton Abbot, Paignton, Brixham, Teignmouth, Dawlish, even Ashburton and onto the moor should all have one, plus one from the Town Centre. Pay £15 and you get a lift there and back and a ticket. Also, signposting to the ground from the Penn Inn would help. New bypass will be a big help with this, Newton will be 10 mins from the ground rather than a 35 minute crawl.

Kids for a quid long term. Need to get the kids to realise that they can see real, professional football on a fortnightly basis right on their doorsteps. Get the first team training at the local schools, going in to assemblies and selling tickets for a pound to our next home game. Honestly, what have we got to lose? Once they come once they will come again, especially the way we are playing at the moment. Unfortunately it takes kids a while to realise how much better supporting a league 2 club is than a Premier League one, I'm 21 now and its only in the past 4/5 years that I've realised Man Utd are a bunch of overpaid wankers and that nothing beats going to see your local club.

Lastly, there needs to be posters in every local business in the Bay giving details of our games, and the ability to buy tickets at these shops. Go into the town on a match day and you'd have no idea we had a professional football club playing 10 minutes away.

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Re: 2nd in the table, 18th in attendances

by hector » 19 Mar 2012, 21:15

A model to follow is Exeter Chiefs. A club that a few years ago got crowds of a few hundred and now get between 7000 - 9000 most weeks. They whole operation is very slick with online ticketing, a tremendous matchday experience. There is a lot TUFC could learn from them.

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