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Southampton Gull wrote:
But you've never heard me singing it

Awayday wrote:
OK............. Shock!!!! horror!!!!!

I know a chant that use to have Ricey's and your name in it!

Southampton Gull wrote:Non-starter, Martin Ling has shown complete faith in his squad so far and I'm sure he would treat Martin Rice exactly the same.

austrianandygull wrote:


I feel i must defend myself here. First of all i am not an expert and have never claimed to be, all i have is an opinion on what i see and that is good enough for me. I'm not one of these people who slags someone / thing off regardless. If they improve or show me they are better than i give them credit for then i will say so and hold my hands up.

Stevens first. Bixie and others know he is not my favourite player. I said he was too predictable and not equipped for league football. He hadn't improved or varied his game. Stevens has improved immeasurably this season and has been a great outlet for the team AND chipped in with goals. Going on what i'd seen of him the previous 4 seasons i was staggered that he was still being considered for first team football. I don't think my opinion of him before the season kicked off was unjustified. The fact is that he HAS improved this season and he HAS been a key player for us. IMO i think our style of play suits him in the fact that he always cuts inside and NEVER goes past a defender to whip crosses in. I don't believe he is capable of doing this if need be so essentially he has 'gotten away with it' however what he has done he has done admirably and i do believe he has the ability to be a league footballer.

McPhee is just McPhee. A tall ungainly striker who has a good record at conference level but is not good enough for us as even a back up. He did really well at Cheltenham and has done as the manager has asked as a pro but he is not good enough or us. Nothing against the bloke. I'm sure many of you will agree.

Tai has shown glimpses of quality but overall i have to say he is a fairly average back up striker. He shouldn't really be starting.

Who else? Morris? Morris is fine, not a problem with him.

I think fans have a right to dislike certain players and as long as it is done on a reasoned basis then fair enough. Not every player who has played for us has been competent.

I'm not saying that every squad member has not done well for us when called upon because they have, they are in there to do a job and they will do it as best they can. Doesn't mean they are any good and i think they are suddenly great. I'm not a hypocrite.

royalgull wrote:

royalgull wrote:All through the season players have been missing and the experts on here have said the replacements are crap, not good enough etc. Stevens was first, then McPhee, then Atieno, then Morris, then Saah and everybody in the squad has stepped up at some point and done well for us. Bobby has been massive for us, you only have to look at Exeter to see what happens when you have a rubbish keeper and where we are to see what happens when you have a quality one. By all accounts he's fine and that's all that matters.

We don't want any disruption to the team right now but sometimes it can't be helped, like I said in the summer if Ricey is needed in the first team he won't let anyone down. In his only game at Cheltenham he was one of our better players on the night, what happens in reserve games when he's playing behing a bunch of kids in defense has no bearing on anything. Remember Ellis played when we lost 9 something at Cheltenham!!!

Bobby's our number 1 I agree with Ling he is by far the best in the elague probably the best in the bottom 2 leagues so if he was missing then we would absolutely miss him big time, anyone would and whoever comes in is a) going to be inferior and b) going to have huge boots to fill. But Ricey would deserve his chance just like everyone else in the side has done. I'm hoping it's not an issue this season now though because if we're going to go up we need no disruptions now especially not in goal.

austrianandygull wrote:Although i would be extremely concerned should we lose Bobby to injury, i do believe that Ricey should be given an opportunity just like everyone else has under Ling. We all pretty much have come to the conclusion that Martin is a really honest and decent bloke so i don't think Ricey need worry. Like Ben says, he turns up every day and puts Bobby through his paces knowing there is virtually no chance of him getting a game. That must be hard for the lad and at least if he knows Ling has total faith in him and wouldn't stab him in the back by drafting another keeper in to play then it'll make each day a little more optimistic. It's all speculation anyway as Bobby will be fine. He is Austrian after all and built like a brick shithouse!