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Kittiwake sounds like a pussy at a wake, when in fact it's a bird that soars the skies.

Are you Tai's birdie in disguise ?

Don't worry about Matt and his banter, at his worst he's only uncouth. Without even trying my worst best, I'm downright insulting.

I've already wished Tai the best for his future and career, so as you follow the journeyman, it's now best wishes to you dear.

It should be noted that many 'public service jobs', ostensibly there to provide a service to the public, are not necessarily set up for that purpose. As often as not they exist simply to enable petty control freaks to abuse the powers they have been given, by bullying the general public in various ways in order to gratify their own egotistical feelings of self-esteem or to dull their own sense of insecurity and unworthiness. And, of course, such jobs are not confined to the public sector; many of them are funded privately by businesses, in any area of life where the public is expecting to be provided with a service, you will see them, marked out by their disdainful unhelpful manner, even by their aggressive bullying, sometimes with uniforms, badges, or epaulettes on their shoulders. They are even to be found occasionally at some football grounds..

Jesus, I even took it down to the level of colour coding and you STILL can't grasp it, I sincerely hope you aren't entrusted with a public service job.

Matt.

ferrarilover wrote: Still it wouldn't be ferrarilover if you didn't attempt to shock by making a p*ss-weak attempt at a witticism.

Pot - kettle - black.

Matt.

Don't see where I have attempted to shock; nor have I tried and failed to be funny.

Not much of a rebuttal, as you might say!


Edited to fix quote - SG

Of course it was - it was banter - Matt seems to be a bit misunderstood sometimes for some reason? Such misunderstood comments make perfect sense to me :P life would be shit n dull without humour and banter, we can't spend our whole lives shaking hands and "how do you do"ing each other.

jonnyfive wrote:
Downright rude comment to make to someone who obviously knows the player personally.

Still it wouldn't be ferrarilover if you didn't attempt to shock by making a p*ss-weak attempt at a witticism.

Thanks Jonnyfive, I thought so too, so let's hope it was Matt's idea of humour.

Edited to fix quote - SG

jonnyfive wrote: Downright rude comment to make to someone who obviously knows the player personally.

Still it wouldn't be ferrarilover if you didn't attempt to shock by making a p*ss-weak attempt at a witticism.

You want to get a new record pal, this one is both shit and stuck.

Pot - kettle - black.

Matt.

nicktufc wrote:How you can suggest that Rene let us down more than Atieno is beyond me.

Stefano and SG summed it up pretty well, and it's quite simple. We all know Howe's better than Atieno, but I can't feel let down by someone who played to the maximum their ability allows. Atieno did this, but it doesn't mean it was good enough to lead to a contract renewal, hence why Ling opted to release him.

Rene's two red cards were unprofessional and, in truth, he was even a little fortunate only one resulted in a serious injury (former Gull Reuben Hazell missed the rest of the season). Through his indiscipline he let us down in those 2 games and the subsequent lengthy suspensions he had to serve, during which Tai ably deputised. Don't get me wrong, though, I love Rene!

ferrarilover wrote:So, no beer, no sloth, plenty of interest, no distractions, extra training, high fitness. Only one thing left, he must suffer a lack of talent. Sadly, of all the traits here mentioned, the only one beyond his control is ability, you can't polish a turd, but you can make it run more and stop drinking. Shame.

Matt.

Downright rude comment to make to someone who obviously knows the player personally.

Still it wouldn't be ferrarilover if you didn't attempt to shock by making a p*ss-weak attempt at a witticism.

stefano wrote:When Atieno was forced in to our side to replace Howe who was suspended for indiscipline he fitted in well and we never lost. He scored some very important goals and even got our only play off goal after others had missed several simpler chances. Much under rated I think and I certainly wish him well - other than playing against us

Why are we getting relegated two divisions?

Matt.

I also wish him the best, hope he finds a decent club to take him on. He scored some valuable goals for us.

kittiwake wrote: I'm interested to see how Jarvis is used next season. Will he become Howe's back-up, like Tai has been, or go up 4-4-2.
It may surprise fans that Tai's goal tally in comparison to minutes on the pitch, compares favourably to Howe's!

As Stefano so eloquently put it, when we needed Tai he delivered. I wish him well wherever he goes and I thank him for wiping the smile off that arrogant toerag Buckles face. There is definitely something there and with the right backing he will deliver for someone.

Please wish him well from me, and thanks for your time as a Torquay fan, all the best, Dave.

When Atieno was forced in to our side to replace Howe who was suspended for indiscipline he fitted in well and we never lost. He scored some very important goals and even got our only play off goal after others had missed several simpler chances. Much under rated I think and I certainly wish him well - other than playing against us

How you can suggest that Rene let us down more than Atieno is beyond me. Time and again he had chance to nail down a place in the side, and every time, Howe proved his worth to us, and the gap in talent was never more apparent than Cheltenham away in the play off game.

ferrarilover wrote:I made the extrapolation that [...] he must suffer a lack of talent.

You make it sound like you've reached an original conclusion to his frustrating performances!

I'm not sure how many more times I can say we are all aware of his limitations, it would just be fitting to wish him well and accept his contributions to an undoubtedly positive season. As much as he's a better player, who performed more effectively and scored more goals, I would argue Rene, with his two red cards, let us down more than Atieno during 2011/12.