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by Nick Potkins » 20 Jan 2021, 22:26

BBC Sport added a few mins ago. . .

National League clubs have been given three options regarding their season after being told loans were the only source of government funding available.

On Wednesday, National League interim general manager Mark Ives presented clubs with three choices.

He said they could access individual loans, share a central loan paid to the National League, or suspend the season.

The latter option is viewed as a last resort given clubs have already received £10m of UK government funding.

That grant funding has now expired and further grants have been ruled out, unless in exceptional circumstances.

A suspension to the season would have a negative impact on sponsorship and commercial deals, and could also lead to the potential loss of the National League's 'elite' status.

The top two levels of England's non-league system are currently classified as elite which - among other things - meant they were allowed to continue playing when new restrictions were imposed by the government in January amid the ongoing coronavirus pandemic.

During Wednesday's talks, clubs were also told to maintain pressure on MPs in the hope of changing the government's mind over the issue of grant funding.

Loans would be managed by Sport England and are repayable over 10 years at an interest rate of 2%, although there is thought to be an option for extensions and a payment break.

The National League is understood to be committed to an open and transparent model should it take on the loan on behalf of its clubs, although it is not completely clear whether clubs would make repayments themselves or have future central payments withheld.

Clubs had to respond to Ives' proposals by the end of Wednesday, with further discussions among the National League board scheduled for Thursday before another meeting with clubs on Friday.

While the National League feels it is doing its best in a difficult situation, there is anger around the funding issue.

The majority of clubs only started the season in October because they thought grants would continue to be paid if matches were still being played behind closed doors when the first portion of funding ran out in December.

In addition, some clubs are furious with the National League board over the funding model it adopted between October and December to distribute the government's £10m. Most clubs had anticipated the money would be distributed on a pro-rata basis in order to cover lost gate receipts - but instead the board split clubs into four bands, and handed out the funding equally across each band.

It meant that every club in the lowest band got £30,000, and every club in the highest band got £95,000 - even though there were significant differences within each band when it came to lost gate receipts.

Some clubs have argued the system has disadvantaged them, and feel so strongly, they have taken legal advice over the issue.

An independent review, led by former Football Association chairman Brian Barwick, is believed to have been heavily critical of the National League board's conduct. Bernstein later criticised the league's lack of action in response to the review's recommendations, saying it had rendered the panel's efforts "pointless".

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by Plainmoor78 » 20 Jan 2021, 22:21

dawlishmatt wrote: 20 Jan 2021, 22:16 No. It clearly states that the National League would take out the loan from sport England and pay out the money in the form of grants, not loans to its 66 member clubs. The National league would have to repay the loan out of its own finances. The 66 member clubs would not have to repay a single penny.
It would presumably paid back by increasing the annual membership fee that the clubs have to pay to the National League and perhaps by lower prize money and less TV money.

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by dawlishmatt » 20 Jan 2021, 22:16

No. It clearly states that the National League would take out the loan from sport England and pay out the money in the form of grants, not loans to its 66 member clubs. The National league would have to repay the loan out of its own finances. The 66 member clubs would not have to repay a single penny.

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by Donuts76 » 20 Jan 2021, 22:14

it does make sense and that is what i am being told too not from a Torquay source i might add. At the end of the meeting there was a discussion around a mini league to decide promotion and relegation if there was an appetite from clubs near the top to do that - but that was very much a side discussion at the end of the meeting should there be some kind of small majority for option 3.
Option 2 seems very sensible!

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by Nick Potkins » 20 Jan 2021, 22:00

2. National League would take out the loan. It would need to be paid back somehow and that must be the club's. That is the only income.

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by dawlishmatt » 20 Jan 2021, 21:48

I've just read a statement from Mark Ives, the National League's interim General manager. Ives has given all 66 clubs 3 options.
1. Loan money to clubs at 2% interest to be repayed over a 20 year period, the first 2 years repayments would be interest free. I understand that the National league board has deemed this to be unsatisfactory.
2. The National league would take out a loan from Sport England and provide this money in the form of Grants ( it doesn't have to be repaid by the clubs)
3. The final option is to suspend the season and allow clubs to furlough their staff.
All 66 clubs have been asked which option they prefer and the National League board will meet again on Friday.
I hope this makes sense.
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by Donuts76 » 20 Jan 2021, 21:48

as in each club sumits a letter!

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by Donuts76 » 20 Jan 2021, 21:47

NL,S and N have to submit a letter tomorrow stating what they want to do. 50/50 at this point. Next meeting Friday. Naturally some want to stop and otehrs want to continue. The problem is as above - the grants are now loans - hence the loss of appetite to continue without crowds

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by dawlishmatt » 20 Jan 2021, 21:15

It is my understanding that the government gave a 3 month grant to National League clubs, including both the North and South divisions of 11 million pounds to cover the first 3 months of the season ( October - December). The Government have now offered a further 11 million pounds for the next 3 months, January to March which is not a grant but instead a loan which has to be paid back at some stage. The Department for Digital, Culture, Media and sport have said that the second payment, January to March was never promised as a grant unlike the payment in October, but is a loan.
The National League held a meeting with clubs yesterday ( Tuesday) and were speaking to clubs today to decide a way forward.
Many clubs fear bankruptcy and feel that they cannot continue and one of the options is to end the season now.
We should know more either tomorrow or on Friday.

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by Nick Potkins » 20 Jan 2021, 19:43

So today the National League met to discuss the rest of the season, does anyone know the outcomes (or was today only day one).

I understand many clubs the North / South League are not keen to continue the season, as the second half of the season is covered by a loan and not a grant, so needs paying back.

One National League club questioned how the season would be completed with over 30 games still to play (Dover at a guess).

Member Club to provide views on three points:
1. The operation of a Club Loan process.
2. The operation of a National League Loan.
3. A suspension to The National League 2020/21 season.

There will be many more mid table teams in our league questioning costs.

Fingers crossed this gets resolved.
Stay Safe

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by Modgull » 30 Dec 2020, 16:10

Looks like the Boxing Day game could be the last time supporters were allowed to watch for some considerable time.

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by TUST_Member_Rob » 30 Dec 2020, 15:39

Unfortunately Devon and more specifically Torbay will be placed into Tier 3

Hopefully football will continue at Plainmoor and we will have to be content with the streams!

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by portugull » 23 Dec 2020, 15:56

Yeovil eliminated from F A Trophy which means we play Boreham Wood away in 4th Round on I think 16th January.

Boxing Day on I think.

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by desperado » 23 Dec 2020, 15:42

So Yeovil game off again tonight - does that mean Boxing Day is off ?

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by portugull » 22 Dec 2020, 16:35

See Yeovil Town Website re Covid 19. 2 players being tested.

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