Torquay United Fans Forum

Southampton Gull wrote:I'm sure now the agony of defeat is lessening he might feel less inclined to stand by what he said but you're still intent on calling him a f**kwit so like I said, that says more about you than him.

Fletch wrote: As you say Dave, its all about opinions.

My opinion is that anyone who comes out with crap like "The daytrippers fu*ked me off all day and ruined my day" or "I don't want these people on a regular basis. They ruined the experience for me and a lot of other torquay fans" and the like, is a f**kwit.

Ive already said I dont have anything against those that want to jump around and shout all game. I prefer to concentrate on watching the game personally but each to their own.

Feel free to hold your differing opinion...

Southampton Gull wrote:I think it's pretty pathetic to jump on smithy for his opinion that they pissed him off. He's a regular fan, he's made plenty of trips to see us when he was at Portsmouth Uni and is committed to going as often as possible. If during our biggest game of the year he gets pissed off by "day-trippers" why shouldn't he say it on here? It's just his opinion.

My own opinion is that I'm happy for as many as possible to follow us to any game but I can certainly sympathise with his feelings on it.

Incidentally, before the game started it was like a morgue in WU103, I stood on my seat to start a song to try and get others to join in and an old guy behind me tried to pull me off it and asked me to keep quiet. I found it quite funny to be honest and explained that I was just trying to get some singing going and asked if he saw the Shrewsbury game on tv. I chatted on and off to him and asked him to attend Plainmoor to give it a go because like a lot of us I'm sure he'd get the bug and I'm sure smiffy would have done the same even though he'd rather not have been sat amongst them.

Calling him a **** for being honest enough to say what he said says more about you than him to be honest. It takes allsorts Fletch, the very point you're trying to make is lost in your attack on him. I've got a lot of time for your opinions, even if I don't always agree with them, but this time I just think you're being a bit of a plank. I'm sure I am at times as well and usually I get told pretty quickly, but most of the time I'm just pushing people into a debate because even if I seem to totally disagree with them I might just be trying to get them to share more than they might have intended. I don't have a problem with you at all but that doesn't mean I can't disect your views when I choose to

Southampton Gull wrote:I think someone must have nicked Fletch's normal spot, he seems mighty angry at those who attend regularly

forevertufc wrote:All people have done on this thread is moan and complian about the organization ,and "not" about either the day trippers or non-regular fans,this why despite out numbering the Stevenage fans 2-1 they totaly out sung us,because Stevenage just did a loud block from the start and we did not.

I don't want these people on a regular basis. They ruined the experience for me and a lot of other torquay fans

The daytrippers fu*ked me off all day and ruined my day. I would obviously take them regularly because we need the income, however I do feel they ruined the atmosphere at old trafford and contributed massively to the sh*t atmosphere

Richinns wrote:Stevenage fans were great on the day and fair play to them.

I think it if the club had set up a 'loud section' from the very start and sold it as this then we would not be talking about this now. When somebody asked for a £26 ticket they could have given them 2 options - do you want to be with the noisy rowdy lot or do you want to be elsewhere? It would not have been hard to do. If they (which seems to be the case) are just allocating £26 tickets in and around the 'singing section', as it was so called, then this is the reason for the confusion and lack of atmosphere. It cannot be blamed on the fans in those sections who are not into singing and chanting as they are simply filling the seat they have been allocated.

I like to join in with the some of the songs and chants so close to the outskirts of the hub of noise suits me. This does not make me any less of a fan than those in the thick of it. I don't think anybody in this thread is suggesting that so I am not sure what all the aggro is about here?

Fonda wrote:So are you suggesting Dave that anyone that didn't want to sing, should have been told to sit in the corner? Because if you wanted a £26 ticket those were the options - in in the middle with the singers, or in the corners. So why should these 'day-trippers' have been forced to sit in the corners, just to keep the 'singers' happy? We need to attract more fans, and as i alluded to earlier in this thread, our 'ultras' or 'popside singers' or whatever they want to refer to themselves as, are in danger of creating a clique - and that is not a good thing if we want to increase numbers. If certain people consider themselves 'better supporters' than others - based only on the fact that they want to sing and jump around, we're never going to appeal to more casual supporters. And we need to start appealing to casual supporters, because there simply aren't enough regular supporters. What annoyed me most was not the people not singing, it was that people trying to start chants, only to be drowned out because the more regular group of singers starting a completely different chant moments later.