Torquay United Fans Forum

bobbytanz1963...
In the quote from BTPIR made previously in this thread, where does it say that there would be an announcement today?
the phrase used was:
"I've been PM'd this morning to tell me...
That the sale of the club will go through today "

No mention (because I haven't been told) of any other that 'it has been agreed' and certainly not that 'it would be announced'

Please don't infer something has been said when it has not. It's not difficult to refer to something clearly stated earlier in the same thread that you are posting from and respond to it.

**** ** primary schoolteacher

you ain't coming back on BTPIR Bore off!

Your links prove nothing hector...
the timeline does. You carry on with your delusional nonsense; it's up to others to choose whether your talking shite or not.
Others have corroborated that the timeline are the FACTS; to date no-one has backed your rubbish up.

Good day!

Once again hector ignores the FACTS and the challenge and repeats his nonsense...

Truro were under notice (therefore effectively legally homeless as in the definition of someone who needs to register for social housing) well before Masters paid fifty grand to keep them in business.

They were very much in business when he sold them. That is not 'leaving them in a mess'
The failure of Cornwall County Council to build the S4C is well documented; it is nothing to do with Masters or any of Truro's subsequent owners for that matter.

Your moronic refusal to debate properly renders your point of view and latest post idiotic.

It has been said tonight that:
"Masters has shown his colours in the past when muddying the waters previously and the mess he left Truro in."

What was the 'mess he left Truro in' considering that he took the club over from the administrator when they were already legally committed to the sale of their ground which had been the legacy of previous owner Kevin Heany and then sold it on after five years?

He DID broker the loan that the Dave Phillips board had no choice but to enter into with Gaming International as they had exhausted their capital; had they not then TUFC would have gone into liquidation.

Peter Masters with his partner Philip Perryman funded the Truro club for the five years of Perryman's agreement to remain involved then the club was taken on by Dicky Evans the man who payrolls Cornish Pirates in a deal that brought the two intended tenants of the proposed Stadium 4 Cornwall that never got built.

The club is now in the ownership of former Toronto Wolfpack rugby league and current Cornwall RLFC owner Eric Perez.

Here is the timeline of what happened to Truro City...

On 25 August 2011, HM Revenue and Customs presented a winding-up petition to the club due to unpaid taxes of over £100,000. Prior to this, chairman Kevin Heaney had to quell rumours of the club being sold. A meeting on 31 October 2011 between the club and HMRC resulted in a postponement of the winding-up process to allow the club until 16 January 2012 to pay their taxes. When the case was called, the Registrar was told that two hours before the hearing the tax debt had been "paid in full." A further winding-up petition was lodged by HMRC in the High Court of Justice (Chancery Division) on 30 March 2012, with a hearing on 30 April 2012 when the club was expected to pay £51,000 to HM Revenue and Customs. When this was not paid, a further extension to 25 June 2012 was granted, but the petition was dismissed when the bill was ultimately settled. Four other parties were also claiming monies amounting to around £700,000, but the club disputed these claims.

Chairman Kevin Heaney stepped down on 24 August 2012 after being declared bankrupt, and he was replaced by vice-chairman Chris Webb. On 31 August, Truro City F.C. filed for administration after the first-team players, who had not been paid during August, informed the club that they would not play against Boreham Wood on 1 September unless this course of action was taken. On 3 September, a further HMRC winding-up order over a tax bill of £15,000 was postponed until 17 September, but this order would be dismissed if the club went into administration, which it did the following day. Ten points were deducted from Truro's total, leaving them bottom of the Conference South table.

On 11 October 2012, Truro City's administrators failed to meet the deadline for the Football Conference's requirement of a £50,000 bond that would enable the club to continue in the Conference South. This bond was to cover the costs of visiting clubs should Truro be liquidated during the season and their results be expunged from the record. A reduced amount was offered by the club, and was refused by the Conference. The match at home to Dover Athletic on 13 October was called off, and the club was expected to be expelled from the league with liquidation probably following such an expulsion

Enter Masters & Perryman...
However, on 12 October the Conference gave the club another week to pay the bond, in the light of "encouraging" information from the administrator. After a preferred bidder pulled out on the morning of 19 October, the bond remained unpaid and the club was set to be expelled from the Football Conference, but discussions continued and City were reprieved later the same day when two businessmen, Pete Masters and Phillip Perryman, paid the £50,000 bond.] The pair completed a deal to purchase the club on 14 December 2012.

In March 2019, Masters transferred his controlling interest to Cornish Pirates; so I ask again:
What is the mess he is supposed to have left Truro City in?

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SG

desperado wrote: ↑14 Aug 2022, 16:09We have lost quality in Little and CLE...

Give it a rest; would those two show ponies have given their all, thrown their bodies on the line and defended our goal as if their mum was in it (to paraphrase the manager)? Not at all; never once have we produced a result like that with those two in the side.

Last season we conceded a goal up there becasue the also over-rated Lewis declined to put himself between ball and goalscorer. Now instead; we have Marshall; a brick shit house instead of a weak youth. Men instead of boys!

It wasn't inherent ability that got that result; it was inner fortitude and guts ~ give me that over what those two self indulgent Doris's you mention brought to the table any day and give me this incarnation of a Gary Johnson side than the previous one all season long!

Absolute eighteen carat idiot...

buys train tickets for a destination where the game isn't being played on the day there is a rail strike!

Should cretins like this be allowed to breed?

dawlishmatt wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 20:29 Ahhh Mr merson, are you now in charge of policing this forum now? Pathetic.

Any poster has a right of reply especially to deliberate mis-quoting of them. That is not 'policing' the forum that is setting the record straight...

You obviously have a problem with recognising the actuality of something that is clearly put in front of you; I'll leave it to others to comment on your standard of posting and your interpretation of the truth. It's very difficult to engage in an intelligent manner with someone who is either clearly deluded, deliberately altering the truth; or an idiot.

You claimed I had said something to the Guardian which I proved I didn't and YOU couldn't prove I did. You also said I 'went to' the Guardian when in fact they came to me. Those FACTS are absolute and unarguable.

Now goodnight and go and annoy somebody else!

DWB wrote: ↑08 May 2021, 16:59 Please please guys chill out and let’s enjoy the football/results the lads are producing. Now is not the time for this ‘bickering’

You only got a post from me on here to correct false statements as to what I said and how I came to state the things that were quoted by the Guardian; the evidence of which I provided.

Now that is done, you can all return to responding to Dawlish Matt without me joining in and I'll keep a watching brief to ensure that if I am again either mis-quoted or lied about I will respond!

Did I actually say "that Gaming International have no interest in the club and only want to purchase Plainmoor and obliterate the football club." Dawlish Matt?

Here's the article in the Guardian you refer to; so tell me just where it is reported that I said that:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... -plainmoor

Oh and by the way; Barry Glendenning the journalist who wrote the article, contacted me; I did not 'go to the national press saying that Gaming Internationals purchase of our club was the final nail in the coffin.' Show us where you have read that or are you believing someone else who has said that.

The quotes by me were accurately reported by Mr Glendenning and are there on the link for all reading your thread today.

Does anyone really believe that if the trust, the forums and the national press had not taken such an interest in the security of tenure of Torquay United at Plainmoor and the deviant conduct of the mayor of the time Gordon Oliver; we would be where we are today? Although Torbay Council denied he made a formal approach about buying the freehold of Plainmoor, there have been informal talks they stated in the Guardian.

Did anyone really believe that a stadium would be built for the Club to move into by now (as was promised) thereby leaving Plainmoor to be re-developed as the local media were telling you?

“If a plan is put forward that clearly demonstrates the development of a new stadium and the relocation of the team is in the club’s absolute long-term interests we will support it. But build it first and leave the freehold under the protection of the council.” The Supporters Trust were saying at the time. No-one was seeking to 'destroy' Clarke Osborne; far from it ~ they were seeking to ensure that Torquay United was not going to be destroyed in the same manner that Reading Speedway was.

Well it hasn't been built has it; and is nowhere near likely to be and as we all know now; has been shoved onto the back burner as Mr Osborne seeks to maximise his acquisition in the manner that we would all want our football club to be run; how we wanted it to be run from the start of his ownership, but certainly wasn't being so in April 2017.

Now be a good boy Dawlish Matt, and get back into your padded cell!

Not even the away end ~ just the away seats; there'll be plenty of room for them in there!

Hi rebelpaws!

Don't get me wrong; I love coming to Hamlet; it's a proper football club with a great management and team. I have happy memories of falling asleep in one of those big leather sofas in the club house after arriving early for a midweek (colouring book free) game and being woken up by your lovely physio Toni who (checking that I was alright) then brought me a cup of tea. We curmudgeonly old duffers do tend to do that and I was told you once had an old guy die in one of those sofas and with nobody taking much notice of him was found there still in restful peace at the next home game!

I really did get asked to give up my young son's seat by a hobby horse (it wasn't a rocking horse) mum who suggested we both sat with our kids on our laps...no feckin' chance. I told her if she wanted a seat that bad she should get there early as we did and that was that. I didn't see anyone else giving up their seat to her so I can't be that much of an odd ball.


Still hoping you remain at Imperial Fields for this one because (quite frankly) a game attracting a sizeable away following should never be used as a first time experience for your team of volunteers ~ you'd be much better advised to use a following like the Concord Rangers Eleven to do that!

By the way; your crowd control for a big attendance when you played Hendon in last season's play-off final was so poor that around a thousand plus were allowed to trample all over the playing surface in order to change ends at half-time. Behave like that if you play at Champion Hill next week and your new pitch won't last five minutes!

You're all deviating away from the immediate problem...

That the criminally insane Cameron granted an uneducated and mis-informed referendum on the subject and the equally criminally insane decision of Theresa May to be agreeable to set a date to leave the EU without knowing precisely what the terms of exit would be. This condemns the country to either a 'no deal' exit or one that will compel it to remain within the auspices of the EU without being a member of it for years if not decades.

How can you set a definitive date on which to leave without having already attained definitive terms of exit? It beggars belief and further underlines the degree of being unfit to participate in this process the inherently divided and Euro-phobic Conservative & Unionist Party really is.

Tied into the customs union and tied into the authority of the European Courts for an undefined period without having any input whatsoever into how they make their decrees. Madness! On the outside of the tent pissing in rather than inside pissing out I would say.

We lost the production of coal and steel in this country under the Bastard Thatcher; now we are about to lose a lot of car making, plane building and a host of other cross-European involved industries relying on the free flow of component parts to arrive freely and unhindered in order to assemble those end products thus condemning thousands to the dole queue, universal credit and ultimately even the food bank.

...and for what? Some lunatic and naïve belief that we will then have achieved the end of free movement (out as well as in by the way) control of our borders and retain employment for the indigenous living under laws only applicable to them made in our courts of law? Seems a pretty high and unacceptable price to play to satisfy a political ideology to me; but then plenty of you on here voted to give idiots like May, Johnson, Davis, Raab ~ the last three all conspicuous by their absence now ~ the power to destroy all that we will be losing in exchange for the pittance that we will be achieving in return.

May might get her deal signed off by the EU at the weekend; but I can't see it being authorised by Parliament and then it's onwards to a 'no deal' Brexit the ramifications of which will reverberate for years if not decades

Good idea!