Torquay United Fans Forum

stefano wrote: ↑23 May 2018, 07:20September 1964 home to Stockport County. A dour game in baking hot early season heat. I think the heat got to him as he and the County striker were sent to cool down after breaching Queensbury rules!

And the man in the opposite corner was former Blackburn and soon to be Crewe Alexandra centre forward Ian Sandiford if memory serves me correctly.

nickbrod wrote: ↑23 May 2018, 21:33You say that but aren't McGinty, Davis, Young and Dorel only days away from telling the club what they are doing?

Well that's reason enough not to be committing as yet to some considered signings who might yet not be needed should the manager get the responses he wants from them.

Does he need an experienced goalkeeper if Dorel says 'yes'? No he does not. Will he need one of Dorel says 'no'?

Of course he does.....it's hardly rocket science is it!

tufcyellowarmy wrote: ↑23 May 2018, 21:17 FFS let it go man...!!!

It's you needs to do one and let it go ~ have I slagged anyone off? No! the reference is made purely to make the point that this now Gary Owers' show and not 'that bloke who keeps turning up at home matches because he hasn't managed to get another management job since he lost the one he had'

There there; not a mention of the name that sends you into raptures. Just an emphasis that the club is under different management, managing in the manner that they see fit.

nickbrod wrote: ↑23 May 2018, 19:54I reckon there are likely to be a number of supporters waiting on another signing or two before deciding whether to buy/renew a season ticket. A week to go before the early bird deals run out.

The day the club prioritise the signing of a player as a tool for 'selling season tickets' they are finished.

Why the panic in the quietest time of the 'signing season' ? ~ players on holiday/players having other offers to consider/managers on holiday/agents on holiday/one particular signing maybe dependent on another etc, etc, etc

The manager's the manager; he will sign the payers he wants as and when it becomes possible. He will sign 'Gary Owers' players, NOT 'Kevin Nicholson' players. Not at a time that pleases forum users or potential season ticket purchasors; but at a time that suits all.....just leave the guy alone to get on with his job!

As forecaste, Gareth Laws leaves the club:
https://www.torquayunited.com/club-vaca ... therapist/
http://thelondonlabia.proboards.com/thr ... llTo=88695

Wolborough wrote: ↑22 May 2018, 07:57Dick Edwards was also pretty good.

Once again; 'best' being bestowed through personal experience ~ the best centre back pairing I remember being Alan Smith and Jimmy Dunne c 1966.....it has been a steady transgression since then with lesser mortals being elevated to 'immortal' status by less privilaged supporters and complete idiots being imposed on us as self appointed legends ~ when a player decides to refer to himself as a legend then we know it really is all over.

Uberwozza-san wrote: ↑22 May 2018, 06:24...Bettany was the hardest player he had seen at plainmoor.

Bettany was the hardest United player, yes. He even rolled his short sleeves up.

The hardest visiting player must have been Jimmy Scouler when player-manager of Bradford Park Avenue ~ a proper baldy looking far older than his 38 years, fouling and growling like a good 'un. Luke Young's mum would have 'brollied him' and sent her little boy in with a sicknote the next time the two sides were due to meet! :~D

Gob shites/street fighters ~ they'll be needed in this league.

I didn't see them this season, but Havant & Waterlooville were full of them last season when they went up from the Isthmian League as a precursor to winning NLS this year.

Same goes for Braintree who were mentally and physically stronger over more talented Hampton & Richmond when I saw them last week in the play-off final.

I haven't said he will sign for United; I haven't said he was released ~ he is out of contract (so there is nothing to release him from) and informed his club he will not be re-signing. I have said they should try for him.....

.....and he is good; he had Young in his pocket up at Maidstone with the usual fading from the action from Young when the going got tough. Reason is a street fighter, Young is not!

I won't comment then; only popped in from the green outside and a nice pint from the adjacent pub; prepare and consume a cold chicken salad whilst Calvin practices his ball skills and collects new friends ~ German speaking and Spanish speaking ~ not a word of English between them, yet communicating and making friends with the aid of a football. An idyllic summer Sunday afternoon and not a beach in sight!

Jai Reason?

Had Luke Young for breakfast up there last season; so tell me a reason not to try for him!

Except Bawling is almost certainly set for the right side of the set-up and Compton would have been for the left, so the comparisons are not authentic. I don't think Bawling being signed has any relevance to forum chat about Compton at all.

Northampton gull wrote: ↑17 May 2018, 23:56 He has just signed for Chippenham F.C. supposedly Torquay did off him a contract but he got offered more at Chippenham

.....how do you know he 'got offered more'?

Or has he decided that ~ at the age of 29 ~ returning to full-time football well away from his home doesn't add up financially and lifestyle wise? I've seen it stated that he now lives in South Wales; well if he does then a short commute to Wiltshire and back for part-time football whilst continuing with whatever else he earns a living from or studies for; is a no brainer compared with committing to full-time well over a hundred miles from home up and down an increasingly painful M4/M5 corridor to negotiate.

I rather get the impression that the no more than average talent that is Jack Compton is being used to beat Torquay United and in particular Gary Owers with.

Like so many other managers, Owers will have many lines of enquiry and irons in fires this summer ~ no manager has ever procured every one of those lines in the past and no manager ever will in the future!

CraigUnder wrote: ↑17 May 2018, 22:36Apparently we have made an offer for Sutton forward Ross Stearn according to someone on facebook.

Played for Owers before ~ rejoined Sutton from Eastleigh last November, a year after making the move in the opposite direction. First signed for Sutton in summer 2015 after two years with Bath City, he played a big part in helping Sutton to the National League South championship in his first season. A former Bristol City youth player, he has also played for Forest Green, Chippenham and Weston-super-Mare; so yes, a very realistic piece of speculation.

Tired Old Gull wrote: ↑16 May 2018, 13:32So would you think he saw a quick buck profit by acquiring the club so easily - and it has now turned out to be rather more of a millstone than he could ever have anticipated?

Developers and speculators habitually engage in 'slow burn' projects to realise a return on their investment and Osborn's ownership of Torquay United has to be precisely that.....and yes; it is costing him and will continue to cost him iin order to do that.

If Osborne is doing so in order to garner trust within the local community and approval/ acquiescence within the political arena, then there must be a potentially massive fortune to be made ~ both for him and them ~ from his endeavours and good luck to him if is successsful.

But not at the expense of the club being exposed to playing within a freehold that is either his or the future owners of the club because that renders them naked in the face of a future insecurity of tenure of the type that they currently enjoy. There are (I believe) almost seventy years left to run on the Plainmoor lease, but one day in the future that too will need to be addressed by a generation yet to come who would not forgive us if we allowed the current status quo to be lost.

Vigilance and diligence remain at the top of the agenda!

Tired Old Gull wrote: ↑15 May 2018, 19:01It still worries me as to why CO purchased TUFC in the first place?

To be pedantic he loaned the previous board money; was made aware that they couldn't pay it back and acquired the club by that default.....

Did he play the loan shark's card of offering more than he knew could be repaid and thus called in his guaranty which was their shareholding?

He certainly carried out due diligence and decided that supporting the failed venture was preferrable to liquidating it himself and he has made no secret of his reasons for doing so. Had he not done so there is no doubt that the business faced liquidation because messrs Phillips, Balson and Kerswell had neither the means nor the intellectual grasp to carry on and had failed to sell the business on as they were hopelessly aligned to doing.

Because of his appalling record over thirty years of never producing what he is promising in Torquay; a growing army of grass roots supporters have made it their business to alert one and all of the very real dangers of him getting his hands on the Plainmoor freehold and indeed the very real danger of playing in a stadium of which he is the freeholder.

The freehold of the ground must remain in public ownership or alternatively in the hands of the supporters' trust; not in Mr Osborne's hands nor indeed those of the football club because he is the owner of that football club!