Torquay United Fans Forum

ferrarilover wrote: 31 Oct 2020, 23:00 My thoughts are that Jamie Reid didn't play in this match, so his opportunities to influence opinions about his ability were limited, rendering any discussion about him moot.
Matt.

:~D Could do with you in the government saying what you think and sticking to it!

tomogull wrote: 23 Aug 2020, 21:58 Very sad to learn that Alan Welsh had died. For those of us on here with grey hair, or none, and weak bladders, Alan Welsh was a great favourite in those heady days of Frank O'Farrell's teams in the sixties .......

Yes I was very saddened to hear of the death of Alan Welsh tomo and he holds some very special memories for me. On Saturday 5 October 1968 I was standing on the terraces at Home Park at the Barne Park end to witness Alan Welsh being put through by Robin Stubbs to slip home the winning goal against Argyle. Just about exactly a year later Saturday 11 October 1969 I turned out at Plainmoor for my first Western League game and Alan was in the same team. He was even good enough to get on the end of a dodgy cross from me towards the end to head the second goal in a 2-0 win against the eventual champions of the season Glastonbury. Rewinding a couple of months in August I had got a Friday night call from Don Mills to travel to Bridport as substitute. As a very keen teenage supporter I was nervous enough as I waited for the team coach outside of Freddie Hawkens Motors at the end of The Avenue in Newton Abbot. Nervously climbing the steps of the coach my legs nearly gave way as I glanced to my right and there sitting in the front seat together were two of my all time heroes Alan Welsh and Tony Scott. A 2-2 draw ensued with Alan welsh scoring both goals. He and Allan Young who also strangely often found himself in the reserves were both excellent at encouraging and assisting the younger players. I think that season Alan Welsh was voted Player of the Year and I also think he was top scorer in both the first team and the reserves, so if that memory is correct it is somewhat unique. About 3 years later I met him again when I was playing for Centrax (where I worked at the time) in the South Devon League Premier and Alan Welsh took our training sessions. Again far too young and like the death of Ian Twitchin it certainly brings home to us older buggers our own mortality. RIP Mr Welsh and I even forgave you for joining Argyle......

tomogull wrote: 24 Aug 2020, 22:04This could well be a good season for us ...... let's hope so.

I always think it is going to be a good season for us. I have rarely been proved right in 58 years!

lucy6lucy wrote: 30 Jan 2020, 20:35 Barrow is an awful town, full of inbreds, has one road in one road out......

Thought you were talking about Cornwall then but then realised Cornwall has 2 roads in and out!

Southampton Gull wrote: 14 Jan 2020, 16:17 If Louis fancies making you an Admin......

Good idea but there would have to be stringent controls in place like Trump has with the nuclear button

Howdidigethere wrote: 13 Jan 2020, 18:17 The loyalty to GJ is truly outstanding. Most of the content backing it up (along with the nostalgia) is totally irrelevant but still admirably supportive.

I assume the 'nostalgia' bit was aimed at me as I seem to have been the only one to introduce any on this thread in recent postings.

I know people find it offensive these days for anybody to suggest that anything happened before they were born and I know they think that if it did it is irrelevant. That is of course why the human race constantly repeats the same mistakes because as a race it stubbornly refuses to take cognizance from the lessons of history.

You state that 'nostalgia' is irrelevant in backing up the manager. You may be right. Nowhere in my posts did I say anything backing up the manager.

I introduced some 'nostalgia' into my argument to illustrate the point that there are so many twats who think they know better than the professionals these days, and suggested what may be a causal link leading to their fantasy.

That was all there was to it and no mention was made by me of the manager or his ability.

If the cap fits wear it, if it doesn't ignore it (or scroll past as SB would recommend)!

Scott Brehaut wrote: 13 Jan 2020, 18:17 Free speech.

If people don’t like this thread, don’t post on it and leave it to die a slow death....those who wish to bang on about how shit our manager is at least have a thread in which to do so, if we leave this open, rather than hijack every other post instead.

Good point well made. Pragmatic to the end Sir!

I tried to make the same point but I am not as eloquent and haven't got the advantage of my name being printed in red

wbw wrote: 13 Jan 2020, 17:53 I know!!!! Disagree with a poster, so just close the post down. Wonderful!!

Ffs what on earth are you on about now? You started the thread and it has been allowed to drone on for 18 pages without anybody closing it down and as I am being allowed to post this it has still not been closed down.

That has got to be a victory for free speech over common sense and desirability!

Plainmoor78 wrote: 13 Jan 2020, 16:05 Personally I blame sky tv. People listen to the bollocks spouted by the so-called experts (who are nothing but has been Ex-pros looking for their next meal ticket) and then think they themselves are qualified to make judgements.

Well put I was thinking exactly the same thing whilst pondering at home yesterday evening.

Everybody seems to think they are an expert these days!

As a kid (I started supporting Torquay aged 11) I can remember discussions about whether a player had played well or had played badly, but I cannot remember any discussions about whether the manager had set the team up correctly or whether players were being played out of position (a full back we had in those days was sometimes played as centre forward - nobody questioned it - it was up to the manager).

I would agree with you that the ridiculous over exposure and over analysis of the game has led to everybody thinking they could do a better job as manager, plus of course that FIFA game which is played on some machine where players throw themselves into it so much that they think they are 'real' football managers!

We had Subbuteo played by flicking plastic players around a cloth on the floor or table, and only the very occasional game live on tv. Even England international friendly games in the early 1960's would only broadcast the 2nd half as they didn't want to discourage attendance. A weekly highlights programme of one hour did not start until I was 14 and that was on BBC2 which most people did not have.

So, we spent our time in the park kicking a ball around until dusk. We did of course think we could play, but nobody thought they could manage a football club. Now it seems every bugger does!

ferrarilover wrote: 08 Jan 2020, 13:20 An ardent Leaver advocating for having a cogent and coherent plan before making a major change? I'm struggling to picture it, I'm afraid.

Matt.

:~D

dawlishmatt wrote: 02 Dec 2019, 10:09 Stefano, without idiots like you, this forum would be a better place . PS. I'm really very intelligent. At school I got 7 A levels, 6 O Levels and a spirit level in the shed!!!!!!!!!

Well done you I am absolutely delighted to hear that

dawlishmatt wrote: 02 Dec 2019, 08:52 Morning stefano. You and Supernickywroe are making yourselves looking like idiots.

Thank you for your insightful posts without which this forum would be a poorer place!

PS. Interesting use of the English language. Might as well have used Chinese characters for all the sense it makes.....

Burnhamgull wrote: 01 Dec 2019, 23:25 I'd be quite worried if a random football supporter latched onto me at a game then followed me back to my hotel to show me their clubs fans forum site.

Absolutely though the difference is that most people would not allow themselves to be latched on to, and would definitely not be the 'latchers on'. Weirdo is the technical term, though I am not going to use it as such expressions are totally unacceptable on social media sites!

standupsitdown wrote: 09 Nov 2019, 09:11 It was either for capacity, potential disorder, or both.

We know Torquay won't take 550 but the police may be being cautious.

Probably an over the top reaction by Kent police and Maidstone FC to a few of our aways last year .

No doubt it is a reaction but whether over reaction is questionable. We can actually blame the small number of our fans who caused disproportionate mayhem at a couple of our away games in National League South last season - police do pass information between forces, so Kent Police has decided not to get caught out.

lucy6lucy wrote: 21 Oct 2019, 18:44 Very winnable game against Maidstone.....

It is though it is also a potential banana skin. We have played them 10 times and only won once, and whilst I know every game is stand alone and anything could happen it is away so I would not be over confident......