The Di Canio explosion

stevegull · Post by **stevegull** » 15 Apr 2013, 08:47

New managers normally have a 'bounce' effect on the team. I honestly don't know if he's a good manager I just stated earlier in this thread that too much credit can be given for his success at Swindon. His playing staff turnover was laughable and you can't get away with that in the Premier League. If you chuck £10million on a player and he doesn't deliver the goods you will lose way too much money and board members won't be happy with that if this Financial Fairplay thing comes in.

He might well be a good manager, but don't overplay his promotion with Swindon.

I did enjoy his passion on the touchline though.

Post by **SuperNickyWroe** » 15 Apr 2013, 08:55

stevegull wrote:New managers normally have a 'bounce' effect on the team. I honestly don't know if he's a good manager I just stated earlier in this thread that too much credit can be given for his success at Swindon. His playing staff turnover was laughable and you can't get away with that in the Premier League. If you chuck £10million on a player and he doesn't deliver the goods you will lose way too much money and board members won't be happy with that if this Financial Fairplay thing comes in.

He might well be a good manager, but don't overplay his promotion with Swindon.

I did enjoy his passion on the touchline though.

or £70k on one of his players................

AustrianAndyGull · Post by **AustrianAndyGull** » 15 Apr 2013, 09:46

AustrianAndyGull · Post by **AustrianAndyGull** » 01 Sep 2013, 18:49

Well , what is there to say but oh dear. I feel the Black Cats have stumbled into a nightmare with this man at the helm. Not long ago my opinion of Di Canio was a good one reinforced by his outspoken views and willingness to change things if it wasn't working and also to drop players if they weren't pulling their weight. In many ways he reminded me of myself and how I WOULD HAVE BEEN should I have been a football manager.

Obviously I am having help with one or two things upstairs and I have used the information I have been given to help me and looked at Di Canio from a different perspective and it is not pretty. Neither was I and neither am I now!

He makes lots of contradictions ( as I was guilty of doing ) , refuses to accept that there are other ways of going about things ( as I was guilty of doing ) and refuses to accept responsibility for his own actions (likewise). By applying my new found therapy I can now see how embarrassing the man really is and how destructive his attitude can be both on himself and his squad. It dreads me to think that I could have been like that and although I admire his passion, that is one thing and sheer bloodymindedness and irrationality is another. Sunderland have got HUGE problems.

Post by **Dave** » 01 Sep 2013, 20:57

Thats the thing Andy, when many up and down the country were covering themselves in jizz over Di Canio the football manager, I never saw it.

Very, very easy indeed to be a good manager, when your in charge of Swindon, a big club compared to most in League 2, and with a top end League 1/Championship budget whilst in League 2.

Now he is at an unfashionable Premier league club with a fairly small budget, in charge players who are loaded and not that worried where their next pay cheque is coming from( so the rants are not going work), thats when you find out how good someone is.

ferrarilover · Post by **ferrarilover** » 02 Sep 2013, 14:49

You and I share a view (and have done for some time), Dave. Di Canio is no more a top level manager than I am the president of the WI.
It seems that there are a few in football who continue to hold positions which they do not deserve, based on very little evidence of talent. Titus Bramble and Danny Welbeck (in his case, there's quite a lot of evidence that he's the worst player in England) spring immediately to mind. Di Canio is in that mould. Was a great player, but he simply isn't a manager of any talent. Any old idiot can win the division when you have a budget which far exceeds anything this side of the Championship Playoff zone, but let's see how he does at Accrington or Morecambe, then judge his ability.

Matt.

Post by **happytorq** » 03 Sep 2013, 14:33

Glostergull wrote: Ere. Doh. Maybe I'm a bit thick but. What are you on about.

Hehe, I only just saw this.

Anyway, "at least he made the trains run on time" is a claim made of Italian fascist leader Benito Mussolini - as in "he may be a fascist dictator who murdered lots of people, but at least he made the trains run on time" (this was actually false, as it turned out, but the saying persisted) - my use of it was a reference to Paolo Di Canio's fascist leanings.

I thought it was rather clever, actually.

AustrianAndyGull · Post by **AustrianAndyGull** » 21 Sep 2013, 22:19

Haha, what a bell end!

njgull · Post by **njgull** » 22 Sep 2013, 00:36

I really need Jozy Altidore to be in top form heading into the World Cup next year. So I really need Sunderland to get rid of Di Canio like right this very minute. Who ever thought putting a certified crazy person in charge of a Premier League team was a good idea?

Post by **Scott Brehaut** » 22 Sep 2013, 01:16

njgull wrote: Who ever thought putting a certified crazy person in charge of a Premier League team was a good idea?

A bunch of northern nutters

Glostergull · Post by **Glostergull** » 22 Sep 2013, 13:28

ferrarilover wrote:You and I share a view (and have done for some time), Dave. Di Canio is no more a top level manager than I am the president of the WI.
It seems that there are a few in football who continue to hold positions which they do not deserve, based on very little evidence of talent. Titus Bramble and Danny Welbeck (in his case, there's quite a lot of evidence that he's the worst player in England) spring immediately to mind. Di Canio is in that mould. Was a great player, but he simply isn't a manager of any talent. Any old idiot can win the division when you have a budget which far exceeds anything this side of the Championship Playoff zone, but let's see how he does at Accrington or Morecambe, then judge his ability.

Matt.

I think we are all pleased as are the WI to hear that Matt.

mind you the thought was rather amusing for a few minutes.

njgull · Post by **njgull** » 22 Sep 2013, 20:45

And...done.

Post by **Southampton Gull** » 22 Sep 2013, 21:05

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24199626

AustrianAndyGull · Post by **AustrianAndyGull** » 23 Sep 2013, 07:21

Well a big round applause for the knobs that decided to appoint the bloke, I bet they're not going to be sacked are they? The inevitability of Di Canio's failure was more obvious than Jordan's knockers yet Premiership bigwig clowns at Sunderland couldn't see the trouble ahead. Di Canio and his tactics might pay off at Rochdale or somewhere like that (although he did have plenty of cash to spend at Swindon which helps) but at a place where if you don't win games you get the boot and in a place where players don't really give a sh*t because they are on so much money then it was doomed to failure.

Why did Sunderland take the risk? Why not Neil Lennon for the job?

I respect Di Canio in some ways for standing up for himself and fronting up the fans and making apologies but the reason why he was making so many apologies was because he was a football manager who wasn't winning football games. I'm sure if he were winning games and playing scintillating football then the Sunderland fans wouldn't give a sh*t who was manager. That's football.

Behind-the-Gulls · Post by **Behind-the-Gulls** » 23 Sep 2013, 08:58

Inevitable-Board probably regretted it from day one.Why oh why did they ever think he was suitable for such a post?
Doubtful if any team in this country would trust him now-its always about him;never his fault- always the players who are to blame.
Good riddance!

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