Argyle in talks with McCormick

[DevonYellow]

5 years after sacking him for causing the death of two children unbelievably the GAWS from down the road are in talks to bring back McCormick .

Despite the fact he should still be inside (got a 7 year sentance) surely there are enough other goalies around?

Morally I really struggle with this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22398328

[AustrianAndyGull]

My feelings are the same as yours mate but a thousand times more hatred for the 'man' to the point of , well you know. I know it's different circumstances completely but the outcome is the same, that bloke charged for the murder of April Jones is likely to serve a long prison sentence whereas McCormick can play football AND people will SUPPORT him! It's morally sickening.

There is no way i'd set foot inside Plainmoor or at an away ground again so long as his name was on our team-sheet.

[usagullmichigan]

My feelings are the same as yours mate but a thousand times more hatred for the 'man' to the point of , well you know. I know it's different circumstances completely but the outcome is the same, that bloke charged for the murder of April Jones is likely to serve a long prison sentence whereas McCormick can play football AND people will SUPPORT him! It's morally sickening.

There is no way i'd set foot inside Plainmoor or at an away ground again so long as his name was on our team-sheet.

Sorry Andy but you can't put those two situations in the same sentence.

[AustrianAndyGull]

I did say it was two totally different circumstances but McCormick was driving like a tw*t and while hammered so in my eyes he's a murderer too but killed 2 innocent kids. He only serves 3 and half years of a 7 and half year sentence and then can resume playing football, I'M SORRY usa but i don't care. As usual in accidents like this, it's always the one who caused it and the one who should be dead that survives. There is no God and there is no justice either.

[usagullmichigan]

I don't disagree. The sentence was wrong but once released he has to work. His trade is football.

[happytorq]

I don't disagree. The sentence was wrong but once released he has to work. His trade is football.

Don't really want to open this can of worms again but I guess I'm going to anyway. McCormick should be in prison. Absolutely. However, the fact that he is not is a failing of the British justice system - any ire should be directed at that. As reprehensible as McCormick's behaviour was (and others, like Lee Hughes before him), in the eyes of the law he has served is sentence and is free to attempt to rebuild his life. He is a footballer, so that means playing football. If he was a plumber, he'd be allowed to go back to fixing leaky toilets.

I agree with the main thrust of peoples disapproval of in situations like these, but it's up to the courts and the justice system to impose an appropriate punishment.

[PlainmoorRoar]

signed a 1 year deal with Plymouth

[AustrianAndyGull]

Thank f*ck it wasn't with us. Phew!!

[Rivo_7]

I will probably get destroyed for this post but here goes...

I will start by saying that yes McCormick has done wrong, nobody including himself has tried to deny that fact. Nothing can take away the pain and damaged caused by what he did but he has served his sentence, whether you agree with that sentence is a different matter.

But I may be wrong but I do not believe that the incident was caused by him being drunk, despite him being over the limit. It was early the next morning morning and the incident was caused by him falling asleep due to tiredness. Dont get me wrong this is stupid but its not as if he was p***ed out of his skull and driving without a care in the world. It was a tragic accident and one that by all accounts he has felt nothing but remorse for since the day it happened.

As said he has served the punishment given to him and is now trying to build a career for himself as do thousands of people in other walks of life. The only abuse I feel he should receive should be for playing for Argyle and not the senseless and ridiculous 'Murderer' chants that were flying at him during the Oxford game.

[gullintwoplaces]

I will probably get destroyed for this post but here goes...

I will start by saying that yes McCormick has done wrong, nobody including himself has tried to deny that fact. Nothing can take away the pain and damaged caused by what he did but he has served his sentence, whether you agree with that sentence is a different matter.

But I may be wrong but I do not believe that the incident was caused by him being drunk, despite him being over the limit. It was early the next morning morning and the incident was caused by him falling asleep due to tiredness. Dont get me wrong this is stupid but its not as if he was p***ed out of his skull and driving without a care in the world. It was a tragic accident and one that by all accounts he has felt nothing but remorse for since the day it happened.

As said he has served the punishment given to him and is now trying to build a career for himself as do thousands of people in other walks of life. The only abuse I feel he should receive should be for playing for Argyle and not the senseless and ridiculous 'Murderer' chants that were flying at him during the Oxford game.

He was over double the legal alcohol limit. He had been seen driving at more than 90mph just before the crash. How on earth you can say what you say above is completely beyond me. I for one am glad that he is not playing for a team that I support.

[Scott Brehaut]

This topic always divides opinion.

There are pretty much two camps - those that believe that now he has served the sentence handed down to him (albeit reduced for whatever reason) he should be allowed to get on with his life howsoever he chooses and then there are those in the other camp who feel he should live his life as a recluse, not allowed back out into society and, heaven forbid, get himself a job....

[AustrianAndyGull]

If someone pulls out of a junction and due to not concentrating or whatever causes an accident and happens to kill someone then i can maybe understand them serving their sentence and being allowed to continue their lives. McCormick was OVER THE LIMIT which is illegal AND he was SPEEDING which is illegal, on top of this he was also driving without due care and attention and so it wasn't just a case of a genuine human error. Therefore in my book if he has to continue his life then fine but there is no way i'm going to be part of that rebuilding process so if i was a garg i'd stop going. Just say McCormick was a plumber and came round to do your house to do a job and you got into a chat where he told you he'd got in a car whilst over the limit, drove well over the speed limit and wiped out the lives of a couple of innocent kids but he's served his time and now wants to fix your pipes. I don't know what you'd do but i'd tell him to go and f*ck right off and chase the runt down the street. Of course some of you may say fine, offer him a cup of tea and a biscuit and let him finish the job. Bloody weird that would be but it takes all sorts i suppose.

[Scott Brehaut]

Ah, so instead you want him to not be able to work ever again and claim off the state - therefore YOU would be helping to keep him going.

He's served his time, he wants to get back into work instead of sponging off the state the rest of his life....he is also paying a shed of his wage directly into a charity, he has shown nothing but remorse and is haunted by what he has done forever.

[AustrianAndyGull]

He should have thought about that before killing someone elses children. I'd rather him claim off the state if i'm honest, then he'd have a sh*t life like the people who were close to the kids he wiped out are having and he would be reminded every day of his life what he has done, just like those close to the children he wiped out. If i was haunted by what i done then i'd certainly be throwing myself into helping raise awareness of dangerous driving and devote my life to that if i genuinely wanted salvation. I wouldn't be going back to being a fairly high profile footballer and mixing in the same circles. Ok so he probably won't do it again but that's because he won't want to spend any more time inside rather than the remorse for the lives he has destroyed. So he gives money to charity, anyone can give money if they've got enough of it. He should be giving his time to help kids and to help out at charities and not just sending them a faceless cheque.

[AustrianAndyGull]

Not many people will agree with me on this but i think i'm being reasonable. If he wishes to go some way to redemption then i'd expect more than sending a charity a few quid each month that's for sure.