Wycombe Wanderers v Torquay United - 12/10/13

[AustrianAndyGull]

When I say "AND BINGO!" I don't mean that I have also won on Bingo too, God no. That would be very unpleasant you all thinking that I spend my Saturday evenings down the local Gala with a dabber.

I meant BINGO I've won (on the lotto and not bingo =D )

[frenchgull]

Dose this now mean Andy that you will be taking over from madam chairperson!!!

[AustrianAndyGull]

Dose this now mean Andy that you will be taking over from madam chairperson!!!

I wish! We'd have no cash left by next week if it were left to me, i'd just fritter it away on big signings and lavish matchday experiences for the fans. What CAN I get for £80 though?

It paid for my day out yesterday anyway. I spent £80 all in for that.

[AustrianAndyGull]

I also apologise for this too but i'm going to chuck out a negative, Charlotte Rampling catch.

Yesterday Wycombe had their own defensive problems as they brought in on loan defender Charles Dunne last week to cover a few problems and he got sent off last week meaning he couldn't play against us. That meant that they used Hause at centre back and Wood also yesterday whose only first team outings this season have been in the JPT.

Considering they could emerge victorious having the 'right cover' and we couldn't and given we still had pretty much no meaningful efforts at goal other than the ones that went in I have now become a little more concerned. That was a bare bones Wycombe back 4 too, same as us.

[taxilady]

Good to meet AAG, Bengull & tktufc yesterday. Felt that we fulfilled our part of the deal by making a lot of noise. We played better at Wycombe than we did at home, shame about the result; Nico is certainly fighting since he's been back in the side. Oh well, we move on. Again. Bring on Mansfield !!

[hector]

I wasn't going to say anything more about this game, but Sky Arts has lightened my mood.


We aren't the third worst side in the Football League, not by a damn sight. Wycombe are 9th and we are comfortably as good as they are in every aspect. Our first XI would have won the game today. Poke wouldn't have hesitated and cost us two goals and Downer (or O'Connor) wouldn't have allowed two of the three.

If ever two matches proved my point about there being different ways to lose a football match, it was the last two.

With our number one and a decent loanee defender to come back next weekend, it's only a matter of formality that we will begin climbing the league. We might not go too far, but we'll be well clear of the drop zone 6 weeks from now.

I think we'll see a striker come in on loan to do the Ball job (except he'll actually do it, rather than whatever it was Ball spent his time doing. Not a lot, from where I was standing). Harding and Benyon linked well today, but never managed to exploit a relatively deep and tight Wycombe back line (they must have been deep, Bennerz wasn't flagged all afternoon. A first?)

Matt.

What a ridiculous statement.

Of course we are the third worst side. We are 3rd from bottom, we have lost SIX games, we have 9 points out of 33. We have a dreadful defensive record, one of the worst goal differences. Hints at promising things during a performance mean nothing, if you are brittle in defence, anonymous in midfield and toothless up front. Three defeats on the trot, and four defeats in our last five games. Good teams just do not do this. You are kidding yourself. To suggest 'it's only a matter of formality that we will begin climbing the league' is classic head in the sand stuff. James Beattie is saying the same sorts of things at Accrington, Northampton probably think the same about their team.

One could suggest that last year, Wigan played some wonderful football, and did not deserve to lose so many games, but lose they did and relegated they were. And that was with a decent manager.

We have Knill, who releases the league's top scorer, whose game changing subs see us lose. Throwing the lead away twice in one game is not what good/even half-decent teams do. We are a poor side, with a poor manager. When people finally wake up to this realisation perhaps someone will then actually do something about it because to carry on as we are means just more of this abysmal season.

This reminds of the season we last wore yellow and white stripes, with Saunders in charge. Around this time of the season, some were calling for him to go but others were coming out with the same sort of nonsense as you and it took until the spring for Wes to be finally shown the door and it was almost too late by then. History is there to be learnt from.

We have this habit of bringing in a new manager when it is almost too late. Going back to Neil Warnock, Colin Lee, Ian Atkins and you could argue Alan Knill himself. It almost always goes to the wire because it is left until around March time to do something about it. This does not have to be a fixed template. Knill has had more than his own prerequisite ten games to judge HIS team. It is clearly crap. So much so, that he has sent one of his signings back and now is clutching at straws with the loan signings he is making. No doubt we will continue this, winning the odd game out of 4 and the same scenarios perpetuating over the next few months until we get to around March and some people finally come to the realisation, that maybe we should have done something when there was time left in the season.

I would love to be proved wrong and Alan Knill become the manager some, somehow, think he is. But history suggests otherwise. We've seen this sort of season so many times before and Knill's record as manager suggests the same. To be in a relegation battle already is just depressing.

It is interesting how others see it, without their rose-tinted spectacles on...from the Wycombe forum

"But we got back into it, against what has to be said was a really poor Torquay team. Benyon up front!? Utter gash."

I suppose, that person, the result...well they are all wrong, because with our heads stuck firmly in the sand, everything is fine.

[tufc si]

I wish! We'd have no cash left by next week if it were left to me, i'd just fritter it away on big signings and lavish matchday experiences for the fans. What CAN I get for £80 though?

It paid for my day out yesterday anyway. I spent £80 all in for that.

Wasn't Bodin 80 quid?!?!.....

Oh my bad, 80,000 wasn't it......

=D

[AustrianAndyGull]

Haha, no worries Smiffs!

On another note, I see that Chappell made it into most peoples top 3 for yesterdays performance and i'm just wondering if I missed something and why the reasons are that he was rated as high. It's purely out of interest, it is funny how fans see performances differently and I'm wondering if I may have missed something?

[COURTNEYtorquay11]

think it was matt that posted about courtney cameron

i feel some people have been very harsh on courtney he is a young lad,miles from home, who has played for you but never played in hes proper posistion he is a left wing not right,he has been ill has had to fight fo fitness,came on for 3 mins what the hell is he supposed to do in 3 mins i was in the crown yesterday i i heard the remarks from some supporters and it really isnt fair courntey is a good player and is not being given the chance he deserves

[ferrarilover]

Certainly wasn't me.

Matt.

[Rjc70]

think it was matt that posted about courtney cameron

i feel some people have been very harsh on courtney he is a young lad,miles from home, who has played for you but never played in hes proper posistion he is a left wing not right,he has been ill has had to fight fo fitness,came on for 3 mins what the hell is he supposed to do in 3 mins i was in the crown yesterday i i heard the remarks from some supporters and it really isnt fair courntey is a good player and is not being given the chance he deserves

I agree, it is not good to hear people at matches having a go at a young lad starting out in the professional game. It wasn't a good three minutes from Courtney yesterday, it happens. But I think most can see he has potential. If you know him, make sure he keeps his chin up, ignores the 'terrace experts', if he heard them, and here's hoping he continues working hard to get to and be as good as he can be, with the opportunities to show it.

[supergulls]

think it was matt that posted about courtney cameron

i feel some people have been very harsh on courtney he is a young lad,miles from home, who has played for you but never played in hes proper posistion he is a left wing not right,he has been ill has had to fight fo fitness,came on for 3 mins what the hell is he supposed to do in 3 mins i was in the crown yesterday i i heard the remarks from some supporters and it really isnt fair courntey is a good player and is not being given the chance he deserves

Am I right in thinking your his mum ?

[FavGull]

Haha, no worries Smiffs!

On another note, I see that Chappell made it into most peoples top 3 for yesterdays performance and i'm just wondering if I missed something and why the reasons are that he was rated as high. It's purely out of interest, it is funny how fans see performances differently and I'm wondering if I may have missed something?

Don't think you missed anything Andy. My reason for including Chappell was that he seemed to be part of our attacks, particularly in the second half down our end, his movement helped enable us to build pressure, he linked quite well with Hawley (who probably should have been further forward) and showed some glimpses that there may be an end product to his play. Not a lot came off for him unfortunately, and it wasn't the best I have seen him play. Maybe my perception was influenced by previous performances, and maybe your expectation levels were in the same way?

I actually considered 9 of our players for my top 5, and there wasn't a great deal between a lot of them. If one or two had raised their game a little, or had a little more luck, this could have made the difference on the day.

[FavGull]

And thanks Yellowsmiffy for validating my match thoughts. I always say why say something in 10 words when you can use 50!

I hope this means I am wise before my years also!

[AustrianAndyGull]

And thanks Yellowsmiffy for validating my match thoughts. I always say why say something in 10 words when you can use 50!

I hope this means I am wise before my years also!

Well I use 350 words when I could use 10.

as for the last bit, it's a no for me.