Hampton & Richmond Borough V Torquay United

Post by **SuperNickyWroe** » 23 Dec 2018, 16:23

Teigngull wrote: 23 Dec 2018, 11:55 Culmstock.
I'm with you on the regional issue & would go as far to say that let's even put league 2 & national league premier at the same level but regionalise it to leagues 2 North & south then promote national leagues north & south up a level of the pyramid to leagues 3 north & south .
It'll be 2 up & 3 down with 1 team going up via playoff final winner north p o winner v south p o winner.
With all of these clubs in serious financial difficulty & e.g. Plymouth having to go to Carlisle midweek & Grimsby going to Exeter mid week etc etc .
The footballing pyramid in this country is geared up for the premier league to thrive & in time premier league 2 will come (sooner than we think) , so it's about time the ' pyramid ' was restructured to suit & benefit ALL, it's not a step backwards in my book , it's a realisation that the current system doesn't work.

totally disagree.
if the FL organised the fixtures better, then it would make life easier.
it might be OK for the local/devon based fans but not for the exiles, particularly those 'ooop north.

Teigngull · Post by **Teigngull** » 23 Dec 2018, 17:07

So then Mr SNW, it sounds as if you'd rather watch your club & others end up going to to the wall because of the extortionate amount it costs to fund travel & overnight stays amongst other things in certain players who, because of family commitments, would consider signing for your club if disruption to their settled family life could be guaranteed to be negligible.
How many Man utd, Liverpool etc fans live in secluded Devon & have never been within a farts whiff of seeing them play ?
People move all over the country for all sorts of reasons , work, family, health etc but few if any stay behind for the love of their football club, & I'm sure you were the same.
I'm only interested in the longevity of our club , if that means going back to regional football to secure the lives of clubs then so be it.

Post by **Southampton Gull** » 23 Dec 2018, 17:19

Agree with SNW. If we or anyone else aspires to be full time professional League clubs we need the competitive edge that national football brings.

lucy6lucy · Post by **lucy6lucy** » 23 Dec 2018, 17:31

Teigngull wrote: 23 Dec 2018, 17:07 So then Mr SNW, it sounds as if you'd rather watch your club & others end up going to to the wall because of the extortionate amount it costs to fund travel & overnight stays amongst other things in certain players who, because of family commitments, would consider signing for your club if disruption to their settled family life could be guaranteed to be negligible.
How many Man utd, Liverpool etc fans live in secluded Devon & have never been within a farts whiff of seeing them play ?
People move all over the country for all sorts of reasons , work, family, health etc but few if any stay behind for the love of their football club, & I'm sure you were the same.
I'm only interested in the longevity of our club , if that means going back to regional football to secure the lives of clubs then so be it.

Absolutely ridiculous statement/argument you have just wrote. If you want Torquay to stay in regionalised football then you’re supporting the wrong club. As a matter of fact, the journey to Hampton and indeed most London teams we visit will endure over 4 hours of travel one way, Wrexham for example is about an extra 20 minutes. And yes I also live up north and miss the northern matches involving Torquay, even though I have been 5 matches already this season.

Teigngull · Post by **Teigngull** » 23 Dec 2018, 19:06

lucy6lucy wrote: 23 Dec 2018, 17:31 Absolutely ridiculous statement/argument you have just wrote. If you want Torquay to stay in regionalised football then you’re supporting the wrong club. As a matter of fact, the journey to Hampton and indeed most London teams we visit will endure over 4 hours of travel one way, Wrexham for example is about an extra 20 minutes. And yes I also live up north and miss the northern matches involving Torquay, even though I have been 5 matches already this season.

I know its Christmas & sometimes you get the wrong end of the stick but try reading my post BEFORE the one you've eloquently commented on, then you'll garner the fact that it would benefit the current incumbents of leagues 2 & national league clubs to go regional, NOT PART TIME OR SEMI PRO or whatever your so obviously frightened of, it's worked before until the 1958 change, that was 60 years ago when football was a mainstay of entertainment on a Saturday we were averaging around 8000, where as nowadays there is so much more out there, it's so embarrassing when people are craving a bumper crowd of 2500-3000 !
To be consistently competitive We need to be a big fish in a big pond, the previous model didn't work we couldn't even afford to get our players to games all together in comfort ( don't try & tell me a mini bus is travelling in comfort either ) in the end which was also an embarrassing fact.
You ,SNW & Southampton & the silent disbelievers need to take a look at the current professional footballing league system in England & Wales & realise as is usual it only benefits those at the top of the tree, where we used to sell players to bigger clubs i.e. Colin Lee, Mike Mahoney, Lee Sharpe + others which would put right any financial disaster looming around the corner , nowadays the shopping is usually done abroad so we miss out & struggle & so on , it will not get any better under the system we operate now.

desperado · Post by **desperado** » 23 Dec 2018, 19:26

Going back to the defence - some good points there from Mellow. We probably have to accept that teams will get through us a few times
I think that with Cameron back we will tighten up a bit. No offence to Sendles-White and Niate who are both good players but think Cameron is the best defender we have and is sharper physically and mentally

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » 23 Dec 2018, 19:47

lucy6lucy wrote: 23 Dec 2018, 17:31
As a matter of fact, the journey to Hampton and indeed most London teams we visit will endure over 4 hours of travel one way, Wrexham for example is about an extra 20 minutes. And yes I also live up north and miss the northern matches involving Torquay, even though I have been 5 matches already this season.

Lucy is quite right about the journey times to the South East clubs. In fact an East/West regionalisation may be better for us than a North/South one.

Not that I'm advocating it, give me a trip to Darlo or Halifax over some poncey cockney no-marks any day of the week.

Post by **Southampton Gull** » 23 Dec 2018, 22:33

Shock horror. Don't disagree with Teigngull or he'll spit his dummy out. We just disagree with you and backed up our argument with reasons. Stop being a total cockwomble FFS!!

Teigngull · Post by **Teigngull** » 23 Dec 2018, 23:30

Southampton Gull wrote: 23 Dec 2018, 22:33 Shock horror. Don't disagree with Teigngull or he'll spit his dummy out. We just disagree with you and backed up our argument with reasons. Stop being a total cockwomble FFS!!

Oops, after blowing his own coc.., nope sorry my mistake , trumpet, Dave the plastic police man, after successfully carrying out his lunchtime assistant duties @ H & R on Saturday wishes it to be known I spit dummies out ! Ok that's his opinion, the only one that counts on this site it seems.
However he wishes it to be known it seems that the current state of professional football in this country is fine & dandy, with no clubs affected by the current out of date structure & if anymore of you out there wish to purchase a pair of blinkers feel free to message Dave in the south hot hot seat or maybe his separated Siamese twin SNW in the under privileged North.

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL & sincere good wishes for 2019
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Post by **Southampton Gull** » 24 Dec 2018, 07:06

Nice nibble there.

Feliz Navidad to you and yours and to all members of the TUFC family

Teigngull · Post by **Teigngull** » 24 Dec 2018, 09:20

Y un feliz ano nuevo para ti Dave tambien, los mejores desesos Teigngull

greb46 · Post by **greb46** » 24 Dec 2018, 09:52

Feliz Navidad a todos.Me voy a comprar la primera de muchas bebidas alcoholics para celebrar nuestra posicion en la liga.

Post by **SuperNickyWroe** » 24 Dec 2018, 11:13

Teigngull wrote: 23 Dec 2018, 23:30 Oops, after blowing his own coc.., nope sorry my mistake , trumpet, Dave the plastic police man, after successfully carrying out his lunchtime assistant duties @ H & R on Saturday wishes it to be known I spit dummies out ! Ok that's his opinion, the only one that counts on this site it seems.
However he wishes it to be known it seems that the current state of professional football in this country is fine & dandy, with no clubs affected by the current out of date structure & if anymore of you out there wish to purchase a pair of blinkers feel free to message Dave in the south hot hot seat or maybe his separated Siamese twin SNW in the [highlight=yellow]under privileged North.[/highlight]

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL & sincere good wishes for 2019
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You talk about "blinkers." Also FYI, I am from Torquay.
The North as opposed to the Beautiful South.

Post by **SuperNickyWroe** » 24 Dec 2018, 11:20

Teigngull wrote: 23 Dec 2018, 17:07 So then Mr SNW, it sounds as if you'd rather watch your club & others end up going to to the wall because of the extortionate amount it costs to fund travel & overnight stays amongst other things in certain players who, because of family commitments, would consider signing for your club if disruption to their settled family life could be guaranteed to be negligible.
How many Man utd, Liverpool etc fans live in secluded Devon & have never been within a farts whiff of seeing them play ?
People move all over the country for all sorts of reasons , work, family, health etc but few if any stay behind for the love of their football club, & I'm sure you were the same.
I'm only interested in the longevity of our club , if that means going back to regional football to secure the lives of clubs then so be it.

When was the last club to "go to the wall" as you put it?
If you look at finances of league clubs, there are clubs that shouldn't survive - Accrington is a prime example, but they are led excellently and are sound financially.
The clubs that have found themselves in peril are the clubs who didnt have an idea about financial management.
Also with regard to players, we have always had issues with location/family/anything else, so this really doesnt hold up as an argument.

Teigngull · Post by **Teigngull** » 24 Dec 2018, 14:04

SNW.
Darlington dissolved in 2012
Aldershot in 1992
Accrington 1966 - now known as Accrington Stanley since 1968 !
Maidstone Utd 1992
Chester City 2010
Scarborough FC 2007
Newport county 1989

Our old chums up the road were a gnats whisker away from folding ( yes they were that close to oblivion )
& by a miracle they managed ton pull out the fa cup draw everybody wants, not only was it season saving but life saving there was no ' Phoenix ' club on the horizon for City.

And I know it's not an English club but GLASGOW RANGERS are a prime example of blinkered fans who think it'll never happen to us, we're too big aren't we ?
Happy Christmas SNW & a prosperous new year to you & yours let's just hope this is the sustainable beginnings of a march up the requestor TUFC whatever your opinions are.
Teigngull
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