Yeah, great, the one club who have done more harm to top level football than any other are buying the success they so desperately crave and will ultimately kill the game we all love. Absolutely brilliant.
ferrarilover wrote:Yeah, great, the one club who have done more harm to top level football than any other are buying the success they so desperately crave and will ultimately kill the game we all love. Absolutely brilliant.
Matt.
Southampton Gull wrote:I'm with you on that one, Matt
I dissargee with the above sentiment, a few years ago europes richest clubs formed toghether under the banner G-14, and forced uefa into to creating things like the champions league , to avoid a break away european league , the g-14 clubs and done all they can to stich things up so more and more of the money in the game goes to them and the gap in many domestic league's has grown wider, the g-14 seem to have done more to kill football than anyone else.
The days of Southampton finishing as runners up to LIverpool , and Aston Villa pipping Ipswich to the league title have gone forever, i did not hear Man.U Arsenal and liverpool complaining when they were receiving most of the money coming in to the game in England.
It was first Chelsea and now Man.C ,fair play to them, money done not buy you succsess, surely you ahve to have the right manager who is capable of buying the right players, to form the best team, at the moment Mancini appears to have done just that.
I dont know if i understood it correctly, however i took the general sentiment on this thread as aside swipe at man.c, which is fair enough, i have heard more than few have a pop at them in footy chats i have had.
My point was the richest clubs in europe came together and formed the g-14 and since have gone about finding ways to ensure as much of the money floating around comes to them as possible, for some not all its menant they have been able to widen the gap in there domestic leagues, the only way for many clubs to join this elite group now is to gain a super, super rich investor.
Man.c got lucky and received such investment, they would not be in this podition with out it, however dont begrudge them it either, just wish someone with a spare million would knock on the front door at plainmoor.
The days of LIverpool winning league titles and european cups of the back of home grown british talent , aswell as Notts forest and Villa , have sadly gone forever.
The difference is that Man Utd were a nothing club (relative to their present, lofty standing) in the mid 80s. Sir Alex pitched up and did nothing for a couple of years and was on the verge of getting the boot. A decent FA Cup run that year saved his sorry Scottish ass and the rest is history. The point is that United, although wealthy, earned that wealth by being an attractive footballing side who won competitions, thus generating their own money. Man City (and Chelsea) were nothing (again, relatively) sides who were gifted the all the worlds riches for doing nothing. The perfect analogy is that of, say, Sir Alan Sugar, and that Norfolk geezer who won the lottery and promptly hoovered it all up his nose in cocaine form. Sir Alan started off with a shed, a screwdriver and a knack of fixing old transistor radios, he EARNED everything he has, regardless of his embarrassment of riches (he does, just like Man United, have more money than any one man could reasonably justify). Mr Lottery Winner is a man who has done nothing to earn his money, he has just been gifted it with no merit. This is in the exact same way as City. Man United can afford to spend £30,000,000 on a player and pay him £150,000/week because of 25 years of very hard work, success and no doubt a slice of luck along the way. Man City can do the same thing because some bloke with more money than God Himself fancies something to do on a Saturday afternoon. What Mr Oil Baron doesn't realise (or care about) is that by simply amassing a team with unlimited finds is in no way impressive, its a totally hollow victory and it makes the competition and the winning of trophies completely meaningless.
Imagine if there were a kiddies race series for Renault Clios, but which didn't actually have any rules about what cars can enter, just a gentlemans agreement that all the cars would be roughly the same and the best team would win. Then imagine that Lewis Hamilton turns up with his F1 car and, obviously, completes the race before anyone else has completed the first lap. Would anyone be impressed? No, most certainly not. This is why it bemuses me that anyone is even remotely impressed with Man City's "achievement" today. You could give a monkey a budget of a billion pounds in the transfer market and it would be able to build a team capable of beating United 1-6. Come back to me when Aston Villa, assembled for a reasonable sum of money (again, reasonable is a relative term) win at Old Trafford by 5 clear goals, then I'll sit up and take note.
The sooner Manchester City die, (metaphorically, of course) the better off football will be.
ferrarilover wrote:Yeah, great, the one club who have done more harm to top level football than any other are buying the success they so desperately crave and will ultimately kill the game we all love. Absolutely brilliant.
Matt.
Their success won't last forever, its not like they will leave a legacy. Embrace the Balotelli years while you can. (Yes, the Balotelli years.)