Crawley v Northampton

[yellowmonkey]

So whats the odds on us getting promotion next season then from league 2?

[bixieupnorth]

very very high I imagine! you've got to assume that big clubs like Bradford argyle rotherham brsitol rovers etc will be favourites, plus couple of the teams to drop, maybe even exeter, certainly chesterfield? northampton will prob have some more money thrown at them, still this season aint over yet, and its gonna be a lot easier to go up this year than next by the look of it!! the next three, or the three after that will reveal all!!
altho we didn't expect to be this far up the table in st martins first season so who knows how much better he'll do in his second?

[AlexGulls]

So we either win all three and hope Crawley drop points. Or over turn an 8 goal swing in Goal Differance.

Its Crawleys to lose so all the pressures gone on them now.

[ferrarilover]

very very high I imagine! you've got to assume that big clubs like Bradford argyle rotherham brsitol rovers etc will be favourites, plus couple of the teams to drop, maybe even exeter, certainly chesterfield? northampton will prob have some more money thrown at them, still this season aint over yet, and its gonna be a lot easier to go up this year than next by the look of it!! the next three, or the three after that will reveal all!!
altho we didn't expect to be this far up the table in st martins first season so who knows how much better he'll do in his second?

So, all the favourites from this year then. Good call bookies, you make Bradford favourites to go up every year and every year the narrowly avoid the drop. Face it, ex-Premier League or not, they're crap. as are NTFC. Quite how both these teams manage to convince so many people to part with so much money to watch the same old boring, negative shite is totally beyond me.

Matt.

[Glostergull]

Oh Matt . you really do my head in.

Surely you have realised why thousands turn out for rubbish week in week out.

It's nothing to do with how much money or what their ground is like. or what they put in the pasties. It's not even whether you have an awfull looking orange car or socks! Although we don wonder about you sometimes! He says in jest.

it's to do with having the team colours in thier blood. Like we have yellow in our blood. They have red and amber or Claret and Blue. Red and white or blue. it doesn't occur to them that they should shift allegience to their main rivals. it's all they know. Same as us, doesn't matter if we are Shite we still come each week. I wouldn't go to follow Excretia or the Gargs if my team was shite. I just shout louder and cheer them on and then come on here and quietly moan a bit. Or if i'm Brucie I come on here and moan a lot. It's all part of being a fan. Or as some look at it. We are mad to follow em but damned if we don't.

If we don't go up (and God forbid we don't) then I will still come back next season. will still cheer em on and still be thought of as Mad as a bag of spanners.(just remember, Spanners can still be usefull in this electronic world) Barmy as the day gone by and with more lose bolts than a Russian T72 tank, but I will still be back!

[ferrarilover]

It's more a comparative issue than one which can be attacked at face value, Andy. I know why these teams have 10,000 supporters, it's more a question of the madness which says that they get 4/1 over us in terms of numbers through the gates when they are fighting relegation and we are bang on for promotion. It's also a question of fluctuation. If we were to swap, Bradford wouldn't see a raise in attendance anywhere near the relatively proportional plummeting in gates we would see at Plainmoor. This makes me sad, the apathy, the lacklustre ambivalence which is so typical of God's waiting room down this way. Imagine, just bloody imagine what we could do with 10,000 season ticket holders paying £300 each. Three million quid to spend over the summer, plus the increase in pie, beer and programme sales over a season, plus the increase in advertising revenue plus all the other good things (even down to ticket sales for functions and 50:50 tickets, every little helps). They bring in more in season ticket sales than we turn over in a year, yet they are where they are. We haven't a pot to piss in, and we're going up. We could, with the support of a few coffin dodgers, bring some really class acts to town, but they won't do it for a lack of willing borne of an abject indifference to their local club and that gets on my tits.

Matt.

[SkyBlueGull]

I have to say that as much as I hate the bar stewards at Crawley you have to give credit for their recent results over last 3-4 games

If we had had to play without Rowe, Mansell Saah and Ellis for 3 games - because of suspension - I am not sure we would have got 2 wins and a draw out of those fixtures becuase our squad is so thin.

Just an observation

[gullintwoplaces]

Sorry but I can't give that lot any credit at all. The fat one has left an indelible stain on them. The players got themselves sent off, it wasn't injury, and they have a whole army of players in reserve paid for God knows how. So no, no credit from me, I just hope and pray that they slip up, preferably on Saturday against a Dagenham side that is not yet mathematically safe from relegation. I also hope they lose at home to Hereford and away to Accrington and go back to the Blue Square next season!

[royalgull]

I have to say that as much as I hate the bar stewards at Crawley you have to give credit for their recent results over last 3-4 games

If we had had to play without Rowe, Mansell Saah and Ellis for 3 games - because of suspension - I am not sure we would have got 2 wins and a draw out of those fixtures becuase our squad is so thin.

Just an observation

Helps when you've got oceans of money to spend on your backup players. Just imagine if we spent a six figure fee on a striker that was no good and loaned him out the next year. We'd be bankrupt.

[yellowmonkey]

I see Kettering were deducted 3 points for breaking the financial rule, how come crawley havent been deducted? I know they in blue square Kettering but surely the league is the same.

[bixieupnorth]

its their first season in new league so doesnt count apparently

[Glostergull]

It's more a comparative issue than one which can be attacked at face value, Andy. I know why these teams have 10,000 supporters, it's more a question of the madness which says that they get 4/1 over us in terms of numbers through the gates when they are fighting relegation and we are bang on for promotion. It's also a question of fluctuation. If we were to swap, Bradford wouldn't see a raise in attendance anywhere near the relatively proportional plummeting in gates we would see at Plainmoor. This makes me sad, the apathy, the lacklustre ambivalence which is so typical of God's waiting room down this way. Imagine, just bloody imagine what we could do with 10,000 season ticket holders paying £300 each. Three million quid to spend over the summer, plus the increase in pie, beer and programme sales over a season, plus the increase in advertising revenue plus all the other good things (even down to ticket sales for functions and 50:50 tickets, every little helps). They bring in more in season ticket sales than we turn over in a year, yet they are where they are. We haven't a pot to piss in, and we're going up. We could, with the support of a few coffin dodgers, bring some really class acts to town, but they won't do it for a lack of willing borne of an abject indifference to their local club and that gets on my tits.

Matt.

Well right now Matt we would have to shove em all into Cary Park. No room on our ground. My what a sight that would make.
Didn't know you had tits my man?

[happytorq]

It's more a comparative issue than one which can be attacked at face value, Andy. I know why these teams have 10,000 supporters, it's more a question of the madness which says that they get 4/1 over us in terms of numbers through the gates when they are fighting relegation and we are bang on for promotion. It's also a question of fluctuation. If we were to swap, Bradford wouldn't see a raise in attendance anywhere near the relatively proportional plummeting in gates we would see at Plainmoor. This makes me sad, the apathy, the lacklustre ambivalence which is so typical of God's waiting room down this way. Imagine, just bloody imagine what we could do with 10,000 season ticket holders paying £300 each. Three million quid to spend over the summer, plus the increase in pie, beer and programme sales over a season, plus the increase in advertising revenue plus all the other good things (even down to ticket sales for functions and 50:50 tickets, every little helps). They bring in more in season ticket sales than we turn over in a year, yet they are where they are. We haven't a pot to piss in, and we're going up. We could, with the support of a few coffin dodgers, bring some really class acts to town, but they won't do it for a lack of willing borne of an abject indifference to their local club and that gets on my tits.

Pretty sure I've said this about, oh, a dozen times before, but the bookies have pretty much nothing to do with the odds. It's about weight of money. Better supported clubs always have more people prepared to bet on them. This forces the price down. Put it this way, if you laid 25/1 about both Bradford and Torquay you'd be sweating bullets over Bradford because you'd probably stand to pay out a fortune if they did manage to jam their way in.

you should be grateful actually. it's muppet bets like that that make it easier to get a decent price for teams that might actually do well. Look at every single tournament England have played in the last 40 years - people pile on old blighty out of hope more than anything and that means that other teams have to get pushed out.

I say this as somebody who got 11/1 for Brazil in 2002 and has gone it at 10s on Argentina for 2014. (I also got Germany at 9s in 2006, which I still think was an ok bet.)