Alarm Bells - Eunan to Crawley

[gullintwoplaces]

And what's more, why the hell are you lot doing waiving your willies on the internet when Germany are giving a free, televised football lesson?

Matt.

Quite right also, I found it all a bit upsetting. Crawley **** taunting us on here and the Germans back to their usual trick of playing average in between tournaments and coming good at the finals. England normally do the opposite. I so wanted Holland to win, just like I want Torquay to go up, Crawley to go bust and England to win the Euros.

[HRG]

This conversation is fantastic. Crawley fans boasting about the greatness of his club is like a Leper boasting about how fantastic his one and only leg is. He's proud of what he's got, but deep down, he knows he won't have his leg in a few years. The only difference being, in Crawley's case, the Leper doesn't actually give that much of a cr*p about his leg and won't be that upset about his beloved leg because there are always other legs. Still with me? No? OK then.

SLC Crawley - could you do me a favour please? I need some recommendations of rich clubs I can jump on the bandwagon of. I'm thinking Man City, PSG or Anzhi but I'm really not sure which one. You could ask all your brand new friends at Gatwick FC if you like. They shouldn't be too difficult to find, it's 2/3s of your stadium.

Love it. You do come up with some top notch stuff Camb.

[cambgull]

Thank you very much Your Gingerness, I do enjoy it when opposition fans visit our forum. When I do come out with the odd corker, I never seem to get a reply from the Billy Big Balls himself, funny that.

[royalgull]

cambgull sums up that club perfectly. They are Rushden and Diamonds or Gretna mkII. Ultimately in the long run you can't make a succesfull football club that is sustainable where nobody actually cares if there is a club there or not. Bandwagon jumpers only stay while the good times roll, as soon as times get tough they leave. Times always do get tough because eventually you start entering leagues where there are proper football clubs that have budgets which even a sugar daddy can't compete with. Club levels out can't get any higher and then it implodes because the sugar daddy can't keep sustaining such enormous losses and his predicted increase in gates doesn't materialise, simply because not enough people care.

It's clear Crawley are a big club with a loyal and passionate fanbase

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2009/2010 Average attendance 1,003.

Big Club.

[tktufc91]

If Eunan goes to Crawley, so be it. I just hope for his sake, when IT DOES all goes belly up at Crawley, he will be playing for a proper club in the Premier League. The two games we played at the Broadfield in the conference, first time, we took near 500 (or even more) fans in a crowd of 1,848. Second time around, we took 300 in a crowd of around 1,100.

I know we seem to be focusing on attendance figures, but Crawley are a small club with a small fan base. Just like us. We aren't a big club by any stretch. The only difference between us and Crawley financially, is that Crawley have had money thrown into the club like it's going out of fashion!!

Since the moneys come in, the so called "fans" have started to watch. Just wait til it starts going wrong and they'll all disappear again. Enjoy it while it lasts, because soon FC Crawley will be playing in the Sussex league in a few years.

[NPL1 CTFC]

I've always thought it intriguing how other clubs seem to think they know so much about our finances, as if they really, really, really think they're being original by suggesting we'll go bust and that it's something our fans have never ever thought of. Amazing, I'd really like to know where they're getting their facts from, maybe they should pass it onto Crawley fans, better still the Crawley board, as I'm sure they'd be delighted to be enlightened.

And so what about how long we've been in the League ? You can't suddenly invent a history of being a FL club when, quite clearly, we haven't got one. On your lot's basis of thinking - and lets chuck in others such as Luton, Wrexham and Swindon - you can't be in the Football League if you're not already in it. Sounds like a closed shop to me. On that basis, shouldn't you lot be ducking out of the League 2 play-offs each season, afterall, League 1 doesn't really go with you does it ?

I'd have thought you'd be particularly coy about rights to play in the Football League, given that you only stayed up thanks to re-election and that lack of automatic promotion in the 1980s. Still, what was that about a closed shop....

Now, with Evans gone, and with moneybags Fleetwood now the league 2 newboys splashing the cash, presumably we can look forward to you starting on them? Afterall, surely they must be about to go bust anyday......

[Southampton Gull]

I have no real dislike for Crawley. I helped a pensioner and lifelong supporter from Crawley to get a ticket for the FA Cup game after your club made a balls-up with how they allocated them. I hate Evans and Raynor with a passion though but they're gone now. If you're so sure your Club is here for keeps why do you feel the need to come on here and bother to engage fans that will hate your club regardless? Move on, enjoy the ride................

[usagullmichigan]

Anyone with half a ballsack knows that Crawley can't go on as they are. Crawley do not have the support. In the end sadly Crawley will go down the pan,

[Southampton Gull]

Anyone with half a ballsack knows that Crawley can't go on as they are. Crawley do not have the support. In the end sadly Crawley will go down the pan,

You just can't leave Matt alone can you?

[brucie]

Possibly they won't down go down the pan if they continue to win lucrative cup ties and command big money transfer fees for average players. Incidentally how many goals has Tubbs scored at Bournemouth - he ain't worth a fraction of the 800k Crawley got for him but excellent business just the same.
Crawley didn't go up because they cheated - they just got enough points.
I actually admire them - small club but they show a modicrum of ambition. Thye might have paid big money for the likes of Barnett,Tubbs and co but they have got back far more money in return - that just seems good business sense in my view.
Thats why they can afford to go after quality players like O'Kane.
Some people really need to get their head's out their arses on here.
Just accept that we will spunk off our three best players for next to nothing and probably then say that we can't afford Bodin.
Thats why we are tin pot Torquay and we scream like a bunch of two year olds just cause other small clubs show how it can be done.

[lucy6lucy]

I've always thought it intriguing how other clubs seem to think they know so much about our finances, as if they really, really, really think they're being original by suggesting we'll go bust and that it's something our fans have never ever thought of. Amazing, I'd really like to know where they're getting their facts from, maybe they should pass it onto Crawley fans, better still the Crawley board, as I'm sure they'd be delighted to be enlightened.

And so what about how long we've been in the League ? You can't suddenly invent a history of being a FL club when, quite clearly, we haven't got one. On your lot's basis of thinking - and lets chuck in others such as Luton, Wrexham and Swindon - you can't be in the Football League if you're not already in it. Sounds like a closed shop to me. On that basis, shouldn't you lot be ducking out of the League 2 play-offs each season, afterall, League 1 doesn't really go with you does it ?

I'd have thought you'd be particularly coy about rights to play in the Football League, given that you only stayed up thanks to re-election and that lack of automatic promotion in the 1980s. Still, what was that about a closed shop....

Now, with Evans gone, and with moneybags Fleetwood now the league 2 newboys splashing the cash, presumably we can look forward to you starting on them? Afterall, surely they must be about to go bust anyday......

Fleetwood have a bigger fan base and will do well in L2. As for you lot, enjoy it while it lasts, YOU wont survive in L1 with your gates, not a chance in hell. Just like us winning the BSP final against Cambridge was make or break for both of us, I do feel that FA Cup match between us decided the short term fortunes of both of us.

[gullintwoplaces]

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Some people really need to get their head's out their arses on here.
Just accept that we will spunk off our three best players for next to nothing and probably then say that we can't afford Bodin.
Thats why we are tin pot Torquay and we scream like a bunch of two year olds just cause other small clubs show how it can be done.

Arrogant, contemptuous and insulting again Brucie, you never fail to disappoint. Still, as you say, you are "usually right" and Steve Evans is a "winner". The reason behind many folk on here disliking Crawley so much is because of your hero Evans. Yes, they got a pile of cash for Tubbs, good business for sure (but Evans was involved, don't forget that, hardly Mr Squeaky Clean).

Yes, the Gulls have not done as well as Crawley in selling players at high prices, but then how many lower division clubs manage to get £800,000 for an average player? However, if O'Kane and Olejnik are sold, it won't be for "next to nothing". It might be lower than the fans might like, but your choice of language is, as always, extreme and derogatory. And why do you call the club "tinpot", do you get a kick of of behaving like a tool?

[hector]

Arrogant, contemptuous and insulting again Brucie, you never fail to disappoint. Still, as you say, you are "usually right" and Steve Evans is a "winner". The reason behind many folk on here disliking Crawley so much is because of your hero Evans. Yes, they got a pile of cash for Tubbs, good business for sure (but Evans was involved, don't forget that, hardly Mr Squeaky Clean).

Yes, the Gulls have not done as well as Crawley in selling players at high prices, but then how many lower division clubs manage to get £800,000 for an average player? However, if O'Kane and Olejnik are sold, it won't be for "next to nothing". It might be lower than the fans might like, but your choice of language is, as always, extreme and derogatory. And why do you call the club "tinpot", do you get a kick of of behaving like a tool?

I fear Brucie is right. You get the feeling if say Crawley or Crewe were selling O'Kane and Olejnik they would be getting more money than us. The Bateson days really did see us shrivel and shrink into this club with the tiniest mindset. The way a club like Peterborough are giants next to us now yet they used to be an average League 2 club.

We think of ourselves as this tiny little club that are lucky to be in the league and quickly grab whatever crumbs anyone offers for our players because we are little Torquay afterall, lets roll over and take what we can get. Other clubs must recognise it and that's probably why our negotiating position is so pitiful.

[gullintwoplaces]

I fear Brucie is right. You get the feeling if say Crawley or Crewe were selling O'Kane and Olejnik they would be getting more money than us. The Bateson days really did see us shrivel and shrink into this club with the tiniest mindset. The way a club like Peterborough are giants next to us now yet they used to be an average League 2 club.

We think of ourselves as this tiny little club that are lucky to be in the league and quickly grab whatever crumbs anyone offers for our players because we are little Torquay afterall, lets roll over and take what we can get. Other clubs must recognise it and that's probably why our negotiating position is so pitiful.

Sorry, but I think yours and Brucie's comments are extremely insulting to the folk that run the club. We don't know (but maybe you and Brucie do?) what was behind Eunan's contract clause, but sure as eggs it wasn't to do with a "tiny mindset". Players can effectively walk at the end of their contracts now, and good players with strong agents call the shots. Eunan did sign a new contract, and so did Bobby, how in God's name does that represent a "tiny mindset"? You don't know how much Peterborough have offered for Bobby, unless you are blessed with insights that the rest of us don't have.

The Directors of the club have done a great job since Bateson sold the club to that horrible shyster Roberts, we have gained a promotion, been in play-offs FOUR times since Roberts went. We have a new stand, we have a great manager, we have some outstanding players. Your language ("pitiful", "tiny mindset", "tiny little club") is remarkably similar to Brucie's and downright unpleasant. Are you by any chance related to Brucie, or do you just moan in the same pub together?

Now for goodness sake stop this nonsensical criticism of the the club's directors and management. We have a lot to be proud of in OUR team.

[CP Gull]

Well at least we appear to have built in a sell on clause (@20%) http://www.thisisdevon.co.uk/story-1638 ... tory.html? should Eunan decide to join Crawley , which means that should Crawley sell him on at any time in the future it will only be when the fee rises to £500k or more that they (Crawley) would actually make more profit on him than us.

With regard to Bobby O, if the rumoured figure of £300k is accurate I don't actually think that's a bad price for a 25 year old keeper at our level as let's face it he is not a kid with potential to reach the very top , like for instance Joe Hart was when he left Shrewsbury a few years back and it is a fact that keepers never go for the same sort of big money that outfield players go for and certainly not strikers.

If these figures are to be believed then, if Ellis goes as well, we could be looking at transfer fees well in excess of £500k some of which will no doubt be used to repay Thea but a large part (50%?) should hopefully go back in to Lingy's playing budget and that should help him recruit some half decent replacements.

As always though there is a worry that by cashing in on your prized assets that you put the risk of your League status on the line. I can't help worrying that selling their best players surely played a big part in the demise of Macclesfield last season (Barnett to Crawley and Sinclair to Peterborough) and Hereford (Manset to Reading and Fleetwood to Luton) so it is vitally important that Lingy uses the likely windfall wisely.