Burton Albion v Torquay United - 22/10/13

[hector]

Tomo, I'm really not bothered how I come across on a football site, if a fool spouts nonsense like Badcott does on a regular basis then he is hardly deserving of any "respect" when compounding it by calling for a managers head before we've even played 10 league games. I would agree with you that if we are in this position come the beginning of January then serious decisions need making but that is over 2 months away and there's a lot of football to be played between now and then. This clamouring for a managers head so soon is what is wrong with football these days, it is sheer lunacy.

1. I think you are confusing me with someone else.
2. There are a great deal of people of on here who are questioning Knill. Your, let's wait until January to find out what we know now, is increasingly a polarised view. But you present it as reason if it makes you feel better and clever.

[brucie]

I am not talking about McCallum's peformance - I am saying that McCallum played ninety minutes the day before the Burton match. This isn't blow football or a North Devon Premier League game its pro standard.
We were hardly shy of forwards to put on the pitch - what a great opportunity to give Benyon most of the match.
Its the sign of a manager who isn't thinking straight or rationally.

[wivelgull]

Who is Badcott?

[Sunnysideup]

I am not talking about McCallum's peformance - I am saying that McCallum played ninety minutes the day before the Burton match.

And Stef has pointed out, on Monday he was a sub that came on the pitch in the 90th minute. Hardly likely to have worn him down for Tuesday night.
However I agree with you about Benners. How he isnt getting a start in a team that cant score astounds me. No one is saying he's the most talented player at the club, but hes the only one that seems to have the poacher instinct of being in the right place at the right time to convert some of the half chances.

[Southampton Gull]

Terry, Stefano clearly pointed out that your information is flawed and having had to wait until the 90th minute to make an appearance he was probably chomping at the bit to get some game time.

Obviously only the village idiot is the only one who doesn't think that a fit and ready Benyon offers anything to the team. Out of interest, does anyone know for sure that he's fully recovered from his head injury? Can't say I've seen it written down anywhere as of yet.

[stefano]

And Stef has pointed out, on Monday he was a sub that came on the pitch in the 90th minute. Hardly likely to have worn him down for Tuesday night.
However I agree with you about Benners. How he isnt getting a start in a team that cant score astounds me. No one is saying he's the most talented player at the club, but hes the only one that seems to have the poacher instinct of being in the right place at the right time to convert some of the half chances.

Thanks Sunnyside.

The game was a Under 21's Premier League fixture played at Telford on Monday evening. The result was Wolverhampton Wanderers 0 West Ham United 2 (Sadler 6, Potts 67), which put West Ham top of the table.

The West Ham team was:- Spiegel, Chambers, Driver, Lletget, Potts, Mpanzu, Turgott, Moncur (Whitehead 50), Cole (McCallum (90), Sadler, Tombides.

Two posters on here have been insisting that McCallum played 90 minutes the night before which is just not true, and as it is something that is easily checked out one would have to wonder about the motive, which does seem to be a deliberate attempt tto undermine the manager by questioning his decision making and selections.

[PlainmoorRoar]

People think he played 90mins?

Jesus it's the norm that the sheep just follow one idiot who posts something like that on this forum!

[Sunnysideup]

Out of interest, does anyone know for sure that he's fully recovered from his head injury? Can't say I've seen it written down anywhere as of yet.

I think he has to have recovered Gull, otherwise he wouldnt be allowed in the squad on medical grounds. The club would get slaughtered by the FA if something happened when he hadnt been cleared.

[wodger of awabia]

I think it is a bit strange that McCallum was brought on in the 90th. minute of the West Ham under 21 game.

Does this mean that West Ham consider that he is not good enough ( at this moment ) to start in the under 21 team?

If they knew that the next day he would be loaned to TQY then why did he travel to the game at all?, & why bring him on in the 90th. minute, & risk him being injured especially when you are winning 2-0.

Was he on the bench because he is recovering from injury?

Has farmer Knill been stitched up by west Ham?

[supergulls]

Thanks Sunnyside.

The game was a Under 21's Premier League fixture played at Telford on Monday evening. The result was Wolverhampton Wanderers 0 West Ham United 2 (Sadler 6, Potts 67), which put West Ham top of the table.

The West Ham team was:- Spiegel, Chambers, Driver, Lletget, Potts, Mpanzu, Turgott, Moncur (Whitehead 50), Cole (McCallum (90), Sadler, Tombides.

Two posters on here have been insisting that McCallum played 90 minutes the night before which is just not true, and as it is something that is easily checked out one would have to wonder about the motive, which does seem to be a deliberate attempt tto undermine the manager by questioning his decision making and selections.

that might have been my fault i saw one of our players at the gym on wednesday who said he had thought mccallum had played 90 mins the night before but i didnt check to see if it was correct and took it as gospel, but clearly it was a miss understanding and he came on in the 90th and didnt play 90. i hope this clears up any confusion.

[stefano]

I think it is a bit strange that McCallum was brought on in the 90th. minute of the West Ham under 21 game.

Not really very strange a perfectly routine tactic which I find infuriating when we are losing to disrupt the flow of the game and run down the clock. It is without doubt that he was already lined up to come to Torquay given that the game was only 24 hours before ours, and is probably why he was on the bench rather than starting. I fancy him for a goal or two, and hopefully this will begin on Saturday or we will all be spending Saturday evening drowning our sorrows as we languish in the bottom two. Mind you I would rather be in the bottom 2 at 5.45pm on Saturday 26 October 2013 than at 5.45pm on Saturday 3 May 2014!

[wodger of awabia]

Not really very strange a perfectly routine tactic which I find infuriating when we are losing to disrupt the flow of the game and run down the clock. It is without doubt that he was already lined up to come to Torquay given that the game was only 24 hours before ours, and is probably why he was on the bench rather than starting. I fancy him for a goal or two, and hopefully this will begin on Saturday or we will all be spending Saturday evening drowning our sorrows as we languish in the bottom two. Mind you I would rather be in the bottom 2 at 5.45pm on Saturday 26 October 2013 than at 5.45pm on Saturday 3 May 2014!

Yes, I know, but why bring him on & risk injury, at 2-0 up with 90 mins. gone surely they could have used another sub.

[stefano]

Yes, I know, but why bring him on & risk injury, at 2-0 up with 90 mins. gone surely they could have used another sub.

I wouldn't have thought that risk of injury was ever considered as every time a player steps on to a pitch there is a risk of injury. As his parent club and employers West Ham United will know that he will stand a greater risk of injury playing for Torquay United in a blood and thunder but little skill League Two game than playing in a cultured under 21 team of a Premiership club.

[Glostergull]

We may have injuries and yes Pearce would have probably been a massive improvement on Cruise but we havn't scored again and that has nothing to do with the defence.
Knill has actually bought in some decent players on loan (Maccourt and O'Connor) but how many forwards do we have now? - Benyon,Hawley,Bodin,Cameron,Chapple,Cameron,MCallum and Azeez
Then lets go onto the midfield - Harding,Craig,Mansell,McCourt,Lathrope and now he has signed Mozika (bloody hell I hope he is good because the way things are going he won't be fit until March of next year.
Knill is over egging the pudding to me. Rather than sign eighty five forwards who can't score he should have started with a loan keeper to replace Rice.
If he gets Downes and Pearce back he should if he can keep O'Connor who is a bloody good player and play him at right back instead of Tonge who is too slow. Replace Nico at left back with Cruise and our defence will look ten times more solid and mobile than it does now.
Half the teams in this league are no better than us personnel wise so why the hell can't we win a game - its got to be down to the manager - surely his tactics are up the spout.

This post proves you were not there at Burton. You write such drivel at times and this is top of the dung heap.
Ricy was the reason we didn't lose 6-0 several quite brilliant saves. He could not have been blamed for any of the goals.

[arcadia]

This post proves you were not there at Burton. You write such drivel at times and this is top of the dung heap.
Ricy was the reason we didn't lose 6-0 several quite brilliant saves. He could not have been blamed for any of the goals.

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