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HRG wrote: *info came from wiki so is probably completely false since we all know the interwebs is full of lies.

Blasphemy, everything on the internet is true..................... FACT o:)

Personally think that Lathrope does better off the bench, to be honest. He didn't have his best game yesterday, with more than a couple of poor/overhit passes. I know he's only young and still learning, but I just feel that having Oastler and O'Kane would be better for us.

Regarding Ellis, I bet he is wondering what the hells happened!? He is a rock, yet he can't seem to get back into the side. The suggestions of Manse moving back into the middle then the Ellis/Branno partnership being restored could be effective. Remember, Robbo-Ellis-Branno-Nicho is the back line which set the record, if I remember rightly..

On the Ellis subject, keep the defence the same as of recent, Robbo and Branston arent doing anything wrong so dont change it. As for Stanley, id put Oastler in, Oastler and Lathrope in the centre, good balance there, Oastler has proved he can do it, not saying O'Kane hasnt, I just dont know whether hed thrive against Bradford, we will most likely be defending a lot, and they will constantly hassle us and make life difficult. Id 100% put him on as a sub at some point though. Stanley will be missed, but I think hes very much replaceable.

NickGull wrote:Regarding Ellis, I bet he is wondering what the hells happened!? He is a rock, yet he can't seem to get back into the side.

Hardly a rock in January. I thought he was very poor for a run of games starting with Hereford away and wasnt suprised when he was dropped. Since then weve looked a lot tighter unit. As YellowMurph says, why change something that works?

Southampton Gull wrote:
Blasphemy, everything on the internet is true..................... FACT o:)

See what I mean lies!

Someone said a while back on one of the matchday threads that he'd heard that Branston and Ellis had had a falling out, of course it could be totally untrue, but if you had to choose between Branston and Ellis because they wouldn't play together who would you choose?

I'd smack the pair of them and tell them to stop acting like little brats :slap:

I wouldn't believe the rumours of a falling out, unless you know something we don't Dave?

They're good mates off the field, Mark and Pickles, and I'm not sure either of them are the type to hold a grudge, more old school than that, get it out in the open and move on type of guys.

Regards DL, he is one of those players I don't usually notice at all. I couldn't tell you a single thing about his game really, a bit like Wroe, but less obviously inconspicuous.

Matt.

I'm with you on this one Matt.

I think Ellis has more of a problem with PB than GB.

Southampton Gull wrote:
Or it could be that Eunan is just being used sensibly after his first real full season of English professional football, which he's found hard going unsurprisingly.

Didn't suggest he wasn't being used 'sensibly'. But if he was the best player in the division, he'd be in a starting line-up more often than not.

As i said, i'm a huge fan of his, but it's still difficult to see which role he's most adept at.

I just answered your post, I didn't accuse you of saying he wasn't being used properly and neither did I say he was the best player in the division.

Has it occurred to you that as he is so young it isn't really established by anyone yet, even himself, as to what is his best role within a starting eleven?

ferrarilover wrote:I wouldn't believe the rumours of a falling out, unless you know something we don't Dave?

They're good mates off the field, Mark and Pickles, and I'm not sure either of them are the type to hold a grudge, more old school than that, get it out in the open and move on type of guys.

Regards DL, he is one of those players I don't usually notice at all. I couldn't tell you a single thing about his game really, a bit like Wroe, but less obviously inconspicuous.

Matt.

I wouldn't believe it either, just thought I'd bring it up as a possibility since it had been mentioned before. Ellis has been so complementary of Branston's impact on his own game in the past that I can't imagine them having a big fall out.
Also there seems to be a great feeling of team spirit in the team which the newer members have easily become a part of, even Giligan who was only with us such a short time appears to have kept friendships with some of the lads.

Like i said in my first reply,think we all reconize the massive impact Craig Stanley has had on our team,so yes it is a blow he will be suspended,and the team were going to have to do with out him should they end up in the play-off's,this is where your squad comes in to play,you should have players on the bench who are trusted to come in to the first team at any time and do a job for the team,if it is the case, that we do not have the right player's,then maybe as a club we do not deserve to be fighting for promotion,personaly with out Stanley i would like to see Oastler/O'kane,as said they are both very good footballer's,and well rested,Lathrope with either of these two ,i can see us being over run in midfield.,i would also leave the back four well alone,at the moment there seem's little wrong back there,so dont try fix was is not broke.

Totaly agree with what been said by S/G regards O'kane,it was Paul Jewell who recently said he is happy for Ipswich youngter's to stay out on loan,because ploding around in the reserve's is doing little good for there devlopment,as there is no substitute,for competative first team football,and this is the problem with O'kane,previous he has youth team football with Everton,and football with Colraine that would not match up to the same intensity that you get week in and out,at league 2 level.

O'kane's form was dipping badly,this was acually a good peice off management from Buckle O'kane clearly was out on his feet,O'kane is rested fresh and ready to go,just in time for the run in,and we all know what o'kane on form is capble off,is capble of producing that pass to unlock any defense at this level,the only down side to his game in the middle he does have a tendacy of losing the ball in a dangerous area.

As for Ellis,do not get me wrong like this lad as a player,however may i dare suggest something here,Ellis i think believed he like Benyon,was going to be allowed to move onwards and upwards,when this did not happen i believe this may have led to a certain amount of upset for the young mr Ellis,and some arising shall we say "issue's",which maybe why we saw a dip in his form,i am not saying this is the case just speculating,however i do not think iam to far away with the truth,it also would not suprise me one bit if Ellis is more than happy to see out his contract sat on the bench if need's be,and then walk away from the club.

Southampton Gull wrote:I'm with you on this one Matt.

I think Ellis has more of a problem with PB than GB.

i think theres a few players in that boat dave..............8/

SuperNickyWroe wrote:
i think theres a few players in that boat dave..............8/

Nothing unusual in that though, Chris. I can't think of any in the starting eleven that have a problem with him. I'm not surprised those having to wait in the wings at any club have a gripe with the Manager.