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I think ling will go with Robbo Saah Ellis Nicho. Id much rather a straight swap - saah out, ellis in

He's an adopted Manchester lad. Jo (his fiancée) moved down from Bolton in the summer and they presently reside in the former abode of one E. Benyon Esq.

Matt.

We can't afford to lose him given Saah is a complete donkey.

Today was the confirmation for me that the current management team haven't got a bloody clue.

The manager hears a players name chanted, so his instant response ok i will play him next week, thats a bit worrying to me, a player should be brought in for all the right reasons and not just to please 20 or so fans who were upset at a 2.5 home defeat.

Bloody weird - Ellis can't get a game but now he wants a transfer Lings says he wil play him.

brucie wrote:Bloody weird - Ellis can't get a game but now he wants a transfer Lings says he wil play him.

Id like to think its because he's finally realised that saah is sh*t

Oh dear Number Four, you have much to learn. :~D

Matt.

i think for a lot of people the chants for ellis yesterday werent necessarily recognising him as the solution to our problems, after all we are all aware he played in the reserves last week and was by all accounts dire, and i saw him in pre season and was disappointed.

i think more than anything its a cry for change, because what we are doing right now is just not working. ellis is certainly an option and whether he applies himself in training or plays well for the reserves, or does neither of those things, he SURELY cant be any more of a danger to our own side than brian saah is at times...

the annoying thing for me - as portugull has pointed out is that ellis was in the back four that didnt concede for 10 games!!!

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and if you guys and gals at the game can see how s**t saah is then why cant ling?

has he got buckle syndrome???

has someone been tinkering with your signature mate??!!

bixieupnorth wrote:has someone been tinkering with your signature mate??!!

probably.

Totally agree SNW. If Ellis was crap, he wouldn't have managed to go 998 minutes without conceding only a year ago! We know Ellis has his weaknesses, but again, that's why he's here and not 2/3 leagues higher up. He has quality, and as said, he will be a better option than persisting with Saah.

NickGull wrote:Totally agree SNW. If Ellis was crap, he wouldn't have managed to go 998 minutes without conceding only a year ago! We know Ellis has his weaknesses, but again, that's why he's here and not 2/3 leagues higher up. He has quality, and as said, he will be a better option than persisting with Saah.

So suddenly, the 998 minutes without letting one in is all down to Ellis?

Nothing to do with Branston being a naturally left sided centreback and organising the defence, or a rightback that doesnt look out of position?

Or even someone in front of the rightback who shielded him well? Or Poke in goal for half of them?

If you want to get really statto, you could point out that when Robertson moved to partner Branston (starting with Stockport home), the next 20 matches we managed to lose twice, one of which was the Accrington match that Ellis started in (and got sent off) so effectively thats 1 defeat in 19 when he wasnt playing?

Just to throw in my two cents worth:

We're clearly in need of a shake up at the back one way or another. Whilst it does seem odd for Ellis to be given a recall given his involvement in the 9-1 disaster during the week, at least Ling (and this is really searching for positives!) has shown that he isn't as obstinate and stubborn as his predecessor, and is willing to listen to the fans and change things around. Whether it works or not is another matter...

I, for one, don't know if Ellis is the answer. He's not the world-beater some would have us believe, but I do think he is a far better option at centre-back than Saah. For that reason, I hope that there is a simple straight swap at the back. As others have said, Nicho and Robbo have been part of a great defence over the last few seasons, and Oastler, although he's had his poor games, has shown moments of promise I thought.

Let's hope that this willingness to change it up leads to some activity in the loan market sooner rather than later, as our squad needs a couple more young loanees (preferably a defender and a striker).

I'm not panicking yet, but Ling needs to get a hold of this situation and turn our form around quickly.

Father Jack wrote: So suddenly, the 998 minutes without letting one in is all down to Ellis?

Nothing to do with Branston being a naturally left sided centreback and organising the defence, or a rightback that doesnt look out of position?

Or even someone in front of the rightback who shielded him well? Or Poke in goal for half of them?

If you want to get really statto, you could point out that when Robertson moved to partner Branston (starting with Stockport home), the next 20 matches we managed to lose twice, one of which was the Accrington match that Ellis started in (and got sent off) so effectively thats 1 defeat in 19 when he wasnt playing?

I haven't said that, have I? He certainly played a part. Of course, Branston played a big role in that, the whole back four did. What was it again? Robbo-Ellis-Branno-Nicho?

3 goalkeepers played in that run, so even though Poke played a few, so did Bevs and Steve Collis.