Re: Plymouth Argyle v Torquay United - 26/12/12
Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 00:01
It's usually the other way round for me mate!Dutchgull wrote:I will comment further when the beer has gone through me !!
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Plymouth Argyle v Torquay United - 26/12/12
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Re: Plymouth Argyle v Torquay United - 26/12/12
Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 09:56
Tale of two halves for me, first half our team looked like they were still on bus or maybe had eaten to much the day before.Thankfully for us our back four were immense and forced Argyle to shoot largely from distance apart from forcing one good save from Pokey most of there efforts went high, wild and wide, dont think we set out to be cautious or defensive my one and only criticism of the first half is our team did not keep possession long enough we seemed to be hell bent on passing long and the ball kept going long and wide and as such the possession kept coming back at us,in windy conditions surely you pass underneath the wind.
Second half much better, we seemed to come out with new purpose, Stevens started to attack his full back and we atleast trying to get a passing game going. Rene Howe came more into the game and forced a save from there keeper and I think it was Mansell who hit the crossbar when it looked easier to score.Our attacking play did deserve a goal however we did not deserve to win..fair result in the end.
Second half much better, we seemed to come out with new purpose, Stevens started to attack his full back and we atleast trying to get a passing game going. Rene Howe came more into the game and forced a save from there keeper and I think it was Mansell who hit the crossbar when it looked easier to score.Our attacking play did deserve a goal however we did not deserve to win..fair result in the end.
Re: Plymouth Argyle v Torquay United - 26/12/12
Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 10:15
Wasn't at the game but happy to trust the judgement of my son who said we were absolute rubbish. Thankful to get a point really against a Plymouth side who are basically awful and paraded a 17 year old yts player up front. They should have been there for the taking but instead battered us in the first half.
As usual Ling has the obsession with trying to win every game 1-0. I was actuallly suprised Lathrope wasn't on the pitch before we had got back to the centre circle after scoring, but predictably we sat back and let the yts player punish us.
Can someone tell him that Craig isn't a winger, also Bodin is the biggest waste of money since Constantine. We were however again devoid of anything on the bench. We were missing Nial Thompson who was the one player who may well have made a big difference in the final quarter. Jarvis was apparently named on the bench and there is no way he could have played - says it all really
As usual Ling has the obsession with trying to win every game 1-0. I was actuallly suprised Lathrope wasn't on the pitch before we had got back to the centre circle after scoring, but predictably we sat back and let the yts player punish us.
Can someone tell him that Craig isn't a winger, also Bodin is the biggest waste of money since Constantine. We were however again devoid of anything on the bench. We were missing Nial Thompson who was the one player who may well have made a big difference in the final quarter. Jarvis was apparently named on the bench and there is no way he could have played - says it all really
Re: Plymouth Argyle v Torquay United - 26/12/12
Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 10:18
No, Jarvis wasn't on the bench.
Re: Plymouth Argyle v Torquay United - 26/12/12
Posted: 27 Dec 2012, 11:40
Before the make I was concerned when I looked at the bench and felt there was nobody who could come on and change the game should we need them to. Our squad is really cut to the bone, especially now with the injury to Mansell and yesterday showed really how far back we have gone from the same venue a year ago. Then we played with some verve and vigour, while yesterday we were very pedestrian. I really hope that the club see that we need some fresh impetus and do not delve even deeper into the reserves/youth team for a solution.
Plymouth may feel they played the best they have all season (see Pasoti) but if that is indeed true then they are in serious trouble because they were awful. So many over hit passes, shaky in defence - a decent team would have hammered them yesterday, yet Argyle should have been out of sight by half time because even though, MacDonald and Downes defended superbly and Poke, despite spilling more than I felt comfortable with, performed heroically, Plymouth had chances where the goal was practically open and contrived to miss.
Howe andBodin got very little service. It sickens me the grief I see Bodin get at the ground and on here. He had probably our best efforts of the first half, one contrived out of no where, when surrounded by about 3 defenders. He is a talented player for whom it is not clicking at the moment but it will.
Craig on the right wing didn't work in my opinion and the midfield were collectively very poor.
2nd half was better and we started to look more likely to score. Mansell's miss was awful but it was redeemed by the goal. The folly was the missed chances when we had a few good chances to kill the game off. Yeoman should have done much better when clean through, although he played a part in a lovely counter-attacking move which Stevens was unable to convert, nobody was in place to score an open goal from good work and pass by Howe. Their equaliser had an air of inevitability about - I had started to picture scenes at the final whistle following a second successive win at Home Park. That tempting of fate was bound to be punished and to be fair the young YTS lad took his chance well and looks a decent prospect for Plymouth.
A draw was probably fair, I certainly would have settled for it before the game but the way it came, it felt like a defeat, although I was glad when the whistle went as they would have probably scored before us.
Plymouth may feel they played the best they have all season (see Pasoti) but if that is indeed true then they are in serious trouble because they were awful. So many over hit passes, shaky in defence - a decent team would have hammered them yesterday, yet Argyle should have been out of sight by half time because even though, MacDonald and Downes defended superbly and Poke, despite spilling more than I felt comfortable with, performed heroically, Plymouth had chances where the goal was practically open and contrived to miss.
Howe andBodin got very little service. It sickens me the grief I see Bodin get at the ground and on here. He had probably our best efforts of the first half, one contrived out of no where, when surrounded by about 3 defenders. He is a talented player for whom it is not clicking at the moment but it will.
Craig on the right wing didn't work in my opinion and the midfield were collectively very poor.
2nd half was better and we started to look more likely to score. Mansell's miss was awful but it was redeemed by the goal. The folly was the missed chances when we had a few good chances to kill the game off. Yeoman should have done much better when clean through, although he played a part in a lovely counter-attacking move which Stevens was unable to convert, nobody was in place to score an open goal from good work and pass by Howe. Their equaliser had an air of inevitability about - I had started to picture scenes at the final whistle following a second successive win at Home Park. That tempting of fate was bound to be punished and to be fair the young YTS lad took his chance well and looks a decent prospect for Plymouth.
A draw was probably fair, I certainly would have settled for it before the game but the way it came, it felt like a defeat, although I was glad when the whistle went as they would have probably scored before us.