Lack Of Ambition and TUFC

[Plymouth Gull]

I had considered that. But we have a core of 2,000 that come regardless of form

Except cold Tuesday nights in January/February!

[Fonda]

Except cold Tuesday nights in January/February!

Fair point. Though they'd be more likely to come out on cold Tuesday In Jan/Feb for Sheff Utd than Barnet.

[Fonda]

Fonda, agree with most of that. Apart from the wage side of things that is. Even players at this level all seem to have agents, and you can take for granted that any agent that didnt get a promotion clause in a contract wouldnt have clients for long. Strange they dont like talking about relegation clauses though

The big problem i forsee is the reduced capacity, resulting in us not being able to capitalise on the 6, maybe 7, games that would bring sellout crowds. The figures for increased share of the FL pot vary widely depending on which source you look at but as a rough estimate, would probably cover twice as much of the wage budget as the current deal does (still below half though). The matchday income from ticket sales is what keeps us ticking over and paying the bills. If that isnt covered by fans paying on the gate, then (hopefully not though) we could find ourselves on the slippery slope...

Fair point. But we wouldn't be talking huge numbers surely? Big enough to cause concern i guess.

As for the attendance issue - we are going to have to deal with that whatever League we're in. Better to have a 4,000 sell out against Sheffield Wedenesday than 2,200 against Macc. It'd be frustrating to not be in a position to take better advantage of those big games, but there it wouldn't be an advantage to being in League 2 because of it.

[Fletch]

As for the attendance issue - we are going to have to deal with that whatever League we're in. Better to have a 4,000 sell out against Sheffield Wedenesday than 2,200 against Macc. It'd be frustrating to not be in a position to take better advantage of those big games, but there it wouldn't be an advantage to being in League 2 because of it.

For each Wednesday match theres a Plymouth, for each Maccy theres a Hartlepool. Swings and roundabouts as far as that goes.

[Trojan 67]

As far as i'm aware nobody has ever suggested we're going to purposefully try and avoid promotion? The very notion is ridiculous in the extreme. The concern of prominent people at the club might be, as highlighted by Dave, we can't afford to go up at the current time. But i'm not really sure i even understand that argument? Would we be forced to spend more money in League 1? Does promotion rely on a promise to spend? We might have the odd player with a promotion related pay-rise - but i doubt many negotiated that. So we go with the sqaud we've got, add a couple more form the League below, or a loanee or two, and see what happens. The very worst that could happen is we get relegated again. Where are these extra costs we're so frightened of? We don't have to spend more on transfers/wages to try and stay up. If we can't - we don't, and we'll only come back down again. It's not a huge drama. Unless i'm missing something obvious?

Nail, head, hit square full on.

[eastyorksgull]

Should we go on to win promotion, Buckle should be looking to make best use of the youth loan system to bring in Premiership or Championship youngsters in on loan to compliment the squad that we have, in addition to the permanent additions of the likes of Sranley, Robinson, Oastler etc.
A number of clubs at League One have used this system to good effect, most notably Yeovil Town, in the last few seasons.

well said bomber,makes sense to do that,the pessimists wont agree,but to take our beloved gulls to another level,dosent matter how small we are,like have said in previous posts,we are punching well above our weight,long may it continue...simon

[yellow]

Lack of ambition?

Maybe. Maybe not. I dunno.

Aren t the play-offs marvellous....?

[eastyorksgull]

Lack of ambition?

Maybe. Maybe not. I dunno.

Aren t the play-offs marvellous....?

hey hey YELLOW,yeah its great,onwards and upwards....simon :na: :na: :na: :na: :na:

[Trojan 67]

Lack of ambition?

Maybe. Maybe not. I dunno.

Aren t the play-offs marvellous....?

They are indeed and when opportunity knocks, answer the door immediately as the opportunity may not be so readily available in a future time.

Then there are the knockers of opportunity. In a word : "TITS"

[SuperNickyWroe]

Fonda, agree with most of that. Apart from the wage side of things that is. Even players at this level all seem to have agents, and you can take for granted that any agent that didnt get a promotion clause in a contract wouldnt have clients for long. Strange they dont like talking about relegation clauses though

The big problem i forsee is the reduced capacity, resulting in us not being able to capitalise on the 6, maybe 7, games that would bring sellout crowds. The figures for increased share of the FL pot vary widely depending on which source you look at but as a rough estimate, would probably cover twice as much of the wage budget as the current deal does (still below half though). The matchday income from ticket sales is what keeps us ticking over and paying the bills. If that isnt covered by fans paying on the gate, then (hopefully not though) we could find ourselves on the slippery slope...

disagree with this.

i would say that most if not all of the squad would not have a clause in their contract saying that if we were to get

promoted they would get x amount more money per week.

why? cos even the most positive amongst them would think we would get this close!!!

[yellow]

They are indeed and when opportunity knocks, answer the door immediately as the opportunity may not be so readily available in a future time.

Then there are the knockers of opportunity. In a word : "TITS"

As a wise man once said:

“The opportunity of a lifetime must be taken in the lifetime of the opportunity”.

[Trojan 67]

As a wise man once said:

“The opportunity of a lifetime must be taken in the lifetime of the opportunity”.

[happytorq]

I prefer another quote from an even more wise man*

"Come on you yellows, we can beat these bastards"

*that was me, just now.

[edit: typo!]

[Trojan 67]

I prefer another quite from an even more wise man*

"Come on you yellows, we can beat these bastards"

*that was me, just now.

"Quite of the week" . . .

[Dave]

I prefer another quite from an even more wise man*

"Come on you yellows, we can beat these bastards"

*that was me, just now.

I quite like your quote aswell,Forever shots and he........Scores