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The best result all round, in my not-so humble opinion, would be a good mix between the two.

There shouldn't be any restrictions on the opening hours, but there should be much clearer rules to state that if you don't wish to work Sundays, you don't have to. It's all about how you work it out with your bosses. Having worked in a supermarket before, if I didn't want to work a certain day, I'd just speak to my boss and get her to change the rota so I didn't work those days, it's really not difficult. I ended up having Thursdays off every week because I asked for Thursdays off every week.

I wasn't old enough to work in 1994 when Sunday Trading was brought in, so I can't comment on the forcing of people to work sundays, but now there really is not a problem.

The argument om whether you have a choice in working Sundays doesn't work much, There are a lot of poeple who object to working on the Sunday. The number of jobs where you don't have Sunday work is fading fast so those who don't want to work are being given hobsons choice. You either have the job and work Sundays or You go unemployed. Is that really fair.
Those who do take the job then have to work Sundays. not that it makes much difference. Those who already were with the companies who introduced Sunday working found blackmail worked very well to force their employees to work or get sidelined and then made redundant.

yellow wrote:I am pleased to see that this thread has been unlocked (which it was this morning). It seemed over-zealous moderation to lock it.

And maybe moderation and zealousness are at the heart of the points being made about Sunday trading.

I guess that anyone born after 1974 knows no different and will see things in a different light to the old codgers who remember it as a day of rest.

Still at least we saw England win the World Cup (on a Saturday)!

I unlocked it as soon as I saw it had been locked and have explained to the Moderator concerned that we like to allow threads to run their course as much as possible even when they go off-topic.

No holier than thou response from me as I was guilty of the same thing in the past but learned from my mistake. I have to say that the Site runs a lot better when we keep our involvement as limited as possible. That's down to the contributions of our members so a deserved thanks from us for giving us an easy time of it

Still this topic has gone far too off topic which we get complaints about also. Can't please everyone and we as a team will never be able to do that.

The site has the feature in place now end of topic? This is the TUFC board afterall.

-edit- Hi Dave the mobile site didnt load your post ah well we've both responded now 2-4-1.

If people want to discuss this topic just move it elsewhere, to save locking it? As you say, the features in place..

You say 'off topic', but we've had the answer and a good result from its being here. The original purpose of the thread was to get Louis to add links to other forum, he's done that, we're discussing Sunday trading now. We don't need Nazi thought police locking threads because that bring discussed doesn't relate to the title of the thread, this isn't Exeweb.

Matt.

NickGull wrote:If people want to discuss this topic just move it elsewhere, to save locking it? As you say, the features in place..

That's a fair point Nick, I'll move it to the Popside. Wouldn't want to be called a Nazi (rolls eyes smiley)

According to some really bored scientist, in an argument, the person who uses a reference to the opponent being a Nazi/Hitler is the automatic loser of the debate.

Quite why we needed a scientist to prove this is beyond me but at least it's now official!

cambgull wrote:According to some really bored scientist, in an argument, the person who uses a reference to the opponent being a Nazi/Hitler is the automatic loser of the debate.

Quite why we needed a scientist to prove this is beyond me but at least it's now official!

Wrong... as usual.

Matt.

ferrarilover wrote: Wrong... as usual.

Matt.

Do explain.

Read it for yourself, you're a (self professed) smart guy, it doesn't take any working out. (and we were getting on so well...)

Matt.

Well I've re-read it a few times and I'm really not seeing the problem. You will have to enlighten me!

Cambgull, unfortunately Matt could be pointing out inaccuracies in about every section of your statement . It wasn't a bored scientist who came up with this theory. He didn't say that the person using the reference to Nazi's/Hitler is automatically the loser. He hasn't proved anything & it isn't scientists who can classify something as 'official'.

But it's an interesting & amusing theory that you refer to, & for anyone not familiar with it here's a link : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

To be honest, I was only passing on what I heard on QI, where Mr Fry had explained it in the way I said. I was assuming Matt was referring to a grammatical or spelling error, hence why I was confused!

Ho hum, inspires debate an' all that.

I know what you mean. Bloody Grammar Nazi's