If I were a Director....

[Scott Brehaut]

But let's berate them whatever they do

Absolutely - it's our right

[ferrarilover]

That's just the thing. We won't sack people for footballing reasons, we can't afford to do that. Not when footballing reasons are 'we're not doing very well'. If Ling hadn't been sick and we'd have finished where we did, then he'd still be here. It was the fact that he was sick that got him sacked. We can't admit that because it would leave us open to being sued up the wazoo.

We won't sack Knill, we can't afford to. The only time this will change is, perhaps, with a few weeks to go and we're touch and go. Then we might decide that £100,000 to sack Knill and appoint a fire fighting specialist (Cornflake, for example).

Matt.

[Scott Brehaut]

Why take that risk?

£100,000 is the same now as it would be at the end of the season - at least doing it now (well, not NOW, but, say, January if things are no better), gives the new manager a chance to do something instead of coming in to a demoralised bunch of players with six or so games to play and expecting miracles.

[ferrarilover]

Because the danger of relegation now isn't sufficiently great to warrant the outlay.

Matt.

[arcadia]

I would at this time talk to the manager to find out what is going on behind the scenes, consider sacking the manager if I was not happy with what I heard and put Ken Vasey in charge with Lee Mansell, see if things improve up to Christmas. If they don't do any better then we've got no option but go for someone else.
I would look at Sean Joyce (Bideford) with an experienced coach with contacts. Chris Hargreaves would be a good choice but being sensible he could be out of our wage structure. I fear if the directors leave it to long the crowd will dwindle away. It's no good sitting on the fence.
I don't know who picks the manager but it should be two football directors people who know the game and one business person. Ten directors having a say is rediculous. I'm sure the crowd would rally round if action was taken as at the moment we can see no way forward.

[arcadia]

I would at this time talk to the manager to find out what is going on behind the scenes, consider sacking the manager if I was not happy with what I heard and put Ken Vasey in charge with Lee Mansell, see if things improve up to Christmas. If they don't do any better then we've got no option but go for someone else.
I would look at Sean Joyce (Bideford) with an experienced coach with contacts. Chris Hargreaves would be a good choice but being sensible he could be out of our wage structure. I fear if the directors leave it to long the crowd will dwindle away. It's no good sitting on the fence.
I don't know who picks the manager but it should be two football directors people who know the game and one business person. Ten directors having a say is rediculous. I'm sure the crowd would rally round if action was taken as at the moment we can see no way forward.

[hector]

Because the danger of relegation now isn't sufficiently great to warrant the outlay.

Matt.

Do you own one of those houses that hang over the edge of cliff edges, because the garden is at the bottom of the sea?

You decided not to take out any new insurance because the threat of falling into the sea wasn't sufficiently great enough to warrant the outlay, even though everyone else could see your garden had collapsed and had washed away to France, so when the cliff eroded, and your house fell in, it was too late.

[hector]

I would at this time talk to the manager to find out what is going on behind the scenes, consider sacking the manager if I was not happy with what I heard and put Ken Vasey in charge with Lee Mansell, see if things improve up to Christmas. If they don't do any better then we've got no option but go for someone else.
I would look at Sean Joyce (Bideford) with an experienced coach with contacts. Chris Hargreaves would be a good choice but being sensible he could be out of our wage structure. I fear if the directors leave it to long the crowd will dwindle away. It's no good sitting on the fence.
I don't know who picks the manager but it should be two football directors people who know the game and one business person. Ten directors having a say is rediculous. I'm sure the crowd would rally round if action was taken as at the moment we can see no way forward.

Mike Bateson might have put someone like Sean Joyce as manager but I would hope this lot would not be so naive. It is one thing, managing a team like Bideford, and granted, Joyce is doing a good job there, but quite another managing a professional club. It is a bit like when people used to suggest Martyn Rogers when he was at Tivvy.

Can't see that Hargreaves would be out of our price range and at least he is working in a professional environment but now is probably not the time, unfortunately, for a rookie. Martin Allen, if affordable, would be my choice out of managers who appear to be available. At least he has a bit of bite about him, which short-term, may be all we need.

[arcadia]

Mike Bateson might have put someone like Sean Joyce as manager but I would hope this lot would not be so naive. It is one thing, managing a team like Bideford, and granted, Joyce is doing a good job there, but quite another managing a professional club. It is a bit like when people used to suggest Martyn Rogers when he was at Tivvy.
Can't see that Hargreaves would be out of our price range and at least he is working in a professional environment but now is probably not the time, unfortunately, for a rookie. Martin Allen, if affordable, would be my choice out of managers who appear to be available. At least he has a bit of bite about him, which short-term, may be all we need.

Martyn Allan is passed his sell by date thats what kind of managers we attract. Look at what Buckle did here he was fresh in his first years. Martyn Rogers was good at that time and yes I think he would have been good for Torquay I was involved with that league at the time. We need a fresh look at things most managers have had good years look at Knill then struggle. What I'm saying go for a fresh manager with a coach alongside I expect you were saying the same about Buckle when he was appointed. Sean North helped him.

[ferrarilover]

Do you own one of those houses that hang over the edge of cliff edges, because the garden is at the bottom of the sea?

You decided not to take out any new insurance because the threat of falling into the sea wasn't sufficiently great enough to warrant the outlay, even though everyone else could see your garden had collapsed and had washed away to France, so when the cliff eroded, and your house fell in, it was too late.

Ok, same scenario, except the house is still 5 miles from the beach and the insurance premium is 10 times my annual salary.

Matt.

[Scott Brehaut]

Ok, same scenario, except the house is still 5 miles from the beach and the insurance premium is 10 times my annual salary.

Matt.

Stick it on the credit card

[Bomber]

Martyn Allan is passed his sell by date thats what kind of managers we attract. Look at what Buckle did here he was fresh in his first years. Martyn Rogers was good at that time and yes I think he would have been good for Torquay I was involved with that league at the time. We need a fresh look at things most managers have had good years look at Knill then struggle. What I'm saying go for a fresh manager with a coach alongside I expect you were saying the same about Buckle when he was appointed. Sean North helped him.

Martin Allen probably wouldn't want to swim the length of the River Teign, so that would be a non-starter!

How about someone like Chris Hargreaves and Alex Russell as manager with someone like Bruce Rioch as D of F, or with Rioch as manager with one of those two to groom as his successor before eventually moving upstairs after 12-18 months.

What we have had at this club many, many times over the years is run-of-the mill managers who have some success, their team breaks up and they replace their best players with inferior ones and end up being sacked and the whole process starts again.

[wodger of awabia]

What's wrong with asking Neil Warnock to help us out for a few months & get us out of the sh#t? He has a soft spot for TUFC & could also consult on the appointment of the next manager.

[Bomber]

If you want Warnock, you would also get Mick Jones and/or Keith Curle as well. Hopefully on expenses only!

[TeenageGull]

Don't think warnock would cut his wages by a considerable amount and there being a chance of no success. If I was warnock, I wouldn't come to Torquay unfortunately