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LikeaPatOutaHele wrote: 28 Jan 2024, 00:35 Another dismal day for a Torquay follower.
Listening to Martin Gritton comments during the game, when his thoughts are most instinctive, (his post match summary is more circumspect) he constantly referred to lack of organisation, tactical ineptitude, pointing out time and time again simple basic errors.
Gary Johnson has built up a victim mentality.
Unlucky. Negative supporters. Injuries. Today, it was the referee, yet again. It's so unfair.
This mentality is perhaps a factor behind us having a batch of resentful players getting booked for dissent.

For all those Gary apologists, who state we are still in the play-offs with a game or two in hand, consider some facts.
1. We have more remaining games away than at home. Our away form places us 17th, not far off relegation.
2. Even winning our games in hand places us 5th (allowing for Hampton & Richmond have only played 27 games).
3. Torquay form against teams in the top 7 Played 8 - Won 1 Lost 7.
4. Our form on plastic pitches is equally dreadful.
Ours good runs of form have occurred when we play a series of matches against lower in the table teams.

Please don't say, "but when we get all our injured players back". You mean, we return to those brilliant performances we had at the begninning of the season. Like, Worthing, Aveley, Maidstone. Dream on.
I have completely lost the faith.
My last hope.
A manager who finally has an honest look at himself, resigns, giving us a chance of a reboot. Even in that unlikely event, what is the chance of the ownership bringing in a serious replacement.

In 44 years barely missing a game at plainmoor this could be as low as I have ever felt about the club.

Skillsy wrote: 28 Jan 2024, 01:54 I went today. We were beaten by a better side. Lots of faults and very frustrating.

But, we all need to stick together through thick and thin. True supporters, and there are many, will do this regardless of results.

Cheddargull wrote: 28 Jan 2024, 12:01 So being a true supporter means paying hard earned money to be subjected to sub standard football from a manager who has completely given up and a club ownership with nefarious motives.
That's not being a true supporter, that's being a mug. Supporters who care see the writing on the wall but as long as enough mug punters remain blinkered to what's going on the club will continue to decline.

Cheddargull wrote: 28 Jan 2024, 12:01 So being a true supporter means paying hard earned money to be subjected to sub standard football from a manager who has completely given up and a club ownership with nefarious motives.
That's not being a true supporter, that's being a mug. Supporters who care see the writing on the wall but as long as enough mug punters remain blinkered to what's going on the club will continue to decline.

Cheddargull wrote: 28 Jan 2024, 12:01 So being a true supporter means paying hard earned money to be subjected to sub standard football from a manager who has completely given up and a club ownership with nefarious motives.
That's not being a true supporter, that's being a mug. Supporters who care see the writing on the wall but as long as enough mug punters remain blinkered to what's going on the club will continue to decline.

brucie wrote: 28 Jan 2024, 16:26 Agree whether you spend your money going, dont go and just listen or watch the game on the stream when its on, the outcome is the same, you just end up angry and frustrated.

We may have been "beaten by the better side" but there is no excuse for that whatsoever. We have players on full time wages performing like clowns. We are tactically outfought game after game by teams with less resources than us.

Is it any wonder - we have a manager/assistant who live hundreds of miles away and probably turn up at Torquay a couple of days a week if we are lucky. Have a look at the highlights and the performance of some if our players yesterday. Halstead, Tomlinson and Martin - performing like park players and throwing the game away within the first half an hour. Absolutely criminal.

Our recruitment has been appalling for the past two seasons. Johnson unsuprisingly has lost the confidence of the supporters. It looks like the players dont want to play for him either.

Realistically this season is over. We will be lucky to finish in the top half. The managers credibility has been shot to pieces - he will no doubt leave at the end of the season.

Stoneybroke wrote: 28 Jan 2024, 09:16 Totally agree with pat out of he'll.

Johnson must go He got sacked from Yeovil and Cheltenham and they soon recovered and have done well without him. so he's not the The Messiah some fans believe!!

I to listened to the Radio broadcast yesterday, and thought that Martin Gritton's comments were spot on . He's was a decent player in his day ,and I think may live locally.

I say sack Johnson and Co and get Gritton in, that should reunite the fans and hopefully turn the team around . May not get us up this season but it's worth a shot.

Anyone agree with me, things have just got to change. But they probably won't !!!!