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Ibbetson

Leadbitter
Saah
Palmer
Rowe-Turner

McPhee (holding)
Yeoman
Craig

Macklin
Howe
Halpin

Rene scored both our goals, which is good news, hopefully he'll play a part on Saturday at Morecambe.

Craig won our penalty, but reading the report on the OS it doesn't say too much. Sounds like Rowe-Turner performed well though.

Bit of a disappointing result considering the line up, but theres a few names in Bournemouths team who would usually be in their first team squad so it wasn't a loss to a full youth team.

NickGull wrote:Ibbetson

Leadbitter
Saah
Palmer
Rowe-Turner

McPhee (holding)
Yeoman
Craig

Macklin
Howe
Halpin

Rene scored both our goals, which is good news, hopefully he'll play a part on Saturday at Morecambe.

Craig won our penalty, but reading the report on the OS it doesn't say too much. Sounds like Rowe-Turner performed well though.

Bit of a disappointing result considering the line up, but theres a few names in Bournemouths team who would usually be in their first team squad so it wasn't a loss to a full youth team.

Ok one was a pen but he's had a good run out today and has to start against Morecambe. I predict here and now that if Tai starts he will be ineffective and brought off after 60 odd minutes for Howe who will then score. May as well start with Howe and then if he is feeling a bit late on then bring on Tai. These people who say Tai deserves to start are a bit misguided i feel. He has HAD to play these last four games regardless so just because he was given a first team slot by default doesn't mean he should carry on starting. Howe is a consistent goal threat and Tai isn't. Simple as. Also, i bet Saah is gutted he got injured when he did as the Ellis/Robbo partnership have flourished and he now plays second fiddle and has to wait for a total collapse in form from either of them, a sending off or an injury before getting another chance in the first team.

It's fairly obvious that Howe will probably replace Atieno if he starts on Saturday. Noone is "misguided" either as you put it.
You seem to have overlooked the fact that Atieno has played up front in four games in a role which probably has not suited his game, and indeed has been the lone striker. Prior to that he has not had much football so it was a pretty big ask.
He scored the winner against Swindon, was well held against Oxford but did an excellent job against Plymouth.
You seem to have overlooked that we won three of these games and drew the other.
It seems as though you put these results down to the other ten players but don't give Atieno credit (by the way where were you against Plymouth - oh yes you got up late got on the road and then decided that you had not left yourself enough time to get to the game - and you have the nerve to call other people misguided )

Ahahahaha, how do you feel now, Andy, even Brucie is making jokes about your tardiness. This is a man who has a physical aversion to humour and he managed to score off you!

On a serious note, I think Howe should play. If you have steak in the fridge, you don't keep eating spam simply because it didn't make you ill.
Tai has done just fine for us, and a return of 10 points from 12 and 5 goals scored makes for perfectly decent reading. However, it's impossible to prove, of course, but I think we'd all agree that, had it been Rene up front instead of Tai, we'd almost certainly have scored more goals than we have (I am aware that this is an abysmally written sentence).

I'd like to see the both of them start a couple of games together to see if that might work, my only reservation would be that I'd not want anyone else to miss out to make way.

Matt.

Whos holding?

ferrarilover wrote:Ahahahaha, how do you feel now, Andy, even Brucie is making jokes about your tardiness. This is a man who has a physical aversion to humour and he managed to score off you!
If you have steak in the fridge, you don't keep eating spam simply because it didn't make you ill.
On a serious note, I think Howe should play. Tai has done just fine for us, and a return of 10 points from 12 and 5 goals scored makes for perfectly decent reading. However, it's impossible to prove, of course, but I think we'd all agree that, had it been Rene up front instead of Tai, we'd almost certainly have scored more goals than we have (I am aware that this is an abysmally written sentence).

I'd like to see the both of them start a couple of games together to see if that might work, my only reservation would be that I'd not want anyone else to miss out to make way.

Matt.

Beautiful example!

That is all...

Yellow4life wrote:Whos holding?

He's the bowler. The batsman's Willey

Matt.

Come onnnnnnnnn, that's a BRILLIANT joke!

brucie wrote:It's fairly obvious that Howe will probably replace Atieno if he starts on Saturday. Noone is "misguided" either as you put it.
You seem to have overlooked the fact that Atieno has played up front in four games in a role which probably has not suited his game, and indeed has been the lone striker. Prior to that he has not had much football so it was a pretty big ask.
He scored the winner against Swindon, was well held against Oxford but did an excellent job against Plymouth.
You seem to have overlooked that we won three of these games and drew the other.
It seems as though you put these results down to the other ten players but don't give Atieno credit (by the way where were you against Plymouth - oh yes you got up late got on the road and then decided that you had not left yourself enough time to get to the game - and you have the nerve to call other people misguided )

Brucie? Whose stolen your login?

100% correct old chap. Tai should start Saturday, don't change a winning team. We now look a lot better and I feel happier knowing if we need a goal we can look to the bench and see the big man back.

Brucie wrote something very simlilar at the weekend, and I, 100 % argee with him, i do respect the opinion's of A-Andy and jocktheknife who said bringing Howe back in was a no brainer, however in this case i cant agree with either.

For me you have look at the bigger picture, Howe to be fair has had 1 reserve match since Dec 17th , in that time , the team have won 3 drawn 1 lost 0 , there is no need to rush back a player with little match time in his legs and risk injury, even more important when you look at Febuary's fixtures, when we will need a fully fit/focused Rene Howe.

Then look at the four games that Atieno played, not sure how any one can say he has not come into the team and done a very good job in Rene's absence, the lad has given his all and more for the team, and scored the winning goal against Swindon which may well turn out to be a very important 3 pts come the season end.

Atieno could score 2 goals and play a real blinder up at Morcambe and i would expect Howe to come on after 60 mins, as i think that Lingy will want to indroduce Howe back into the team slowly.

That said whatever Martin Ling does whether it's start Howe or Atieno, i trust his judgment as a fan, and will be happy either way.

It's a tough call but personally I think that Tai has done enough to keep the shirt for Saturday. That said, I fully expect, barring a stellar performance from him (Atieno) that he will be subbed off after 60-70 minutes to make way for Rene.

Although Rene scored two yesterday, he did look a little "off the pace" to me (understandable given that he has been out for over a month) and although he scored two goals it's fair to say that his first was put on a plate for him by LRT and was literally a tap in from a yard out (no more!) and the other was a somewhat fortunate penalty in injury time which he put away nicely.

I get the impression that Lingy is the type of Manager who will stay loyal to any player who is doing the business for him, as Tai has, and is also unlikely to change a winning team - for that reason Atieno will start in my opinion. We shall see.

While I've only seen one of the 4 games in which Atieno has filled the Howe role, reports from the others suggest he's worked hard and been an adequate replacement, but isn't particularly suited to the role and isn't nearly as much of a goal threat. As such, if he's fit and ready for it, I think Howe should be coming straight back into the side. He's key to the system we play and one of our most effective players. Of course if he's not fully fit (as suggested above) it's nice to know we have a decent replacement in Tai, and maybe Rene looming on the bench will spur him to have a blinder. Either way I'd expect one to replace the other at some point in the game.

ferrarilover wrote: He's the bowler. The batsman's Willey

Matt.

Come onnnnnnnnn, that's a BRILLIANT joke!

I'm actually going to give you this, for - despite your near-communist views of socioeconomic equality - this did make me giggle.

There's nothing wrong with the THEORY of communist utopia (always thought this word had an 'e' at the beginning), it's the capitalist corruption of materialism which brings it all to its knees. Given 5 generations of perfect communism, the World would be a beautiful place.

Matt.

brucie wrote:It's fairly obvious that Howe will probably replace Atieno if he starts on Saturday. Noone is "misguided" either as you put it.
You seem to have overlooked the fact that Atieno has played up front in four games in a role which probably has not suited his game, and indeed has been the lone striker. Prior to that he has not had much football so it was a pretty big ask.
He scored the winner against Swindon, was well held against Oxford but did an excellent job against Plymouth.
You seem to have overlooked that we won three of these games and drew the other.
It seems as though you put these results down to the other ten players but don't give Atieno credit (by the way where were you against Plymouth - oh yes you got up late got on the road and then decided that you had not left yourself enough time to get to the game - and you have the nerve to call other people misguided )

Torquay v Gillingham matchday thread bottom of page 8 and Brucie wrote,'Atieno ran around but basically looked the headless chicken he has proven to be'. Suddenly now he he amazing and shouldn't be dropped.

Same thread on page 7 and Brucie wrote,'McPhee/Saah/Rice/Leadbitter/ATIENO/Halpin/Macklin/Rowe-Turner - not one of these players would get a sniff of a first team game in any other league 2 side!'. Funny that Brucie how you indicate there that Atieno is basically shite and non-league, something i have been saying since we signed him but my opinions don't change to suit how well/poorly we are doing like yours does. If Atieno starts v Morecambe and bags a hat-trick i'll say well done and thanks but i still think you are shite and not up to the job. At least i'm consistent. When Atieno has a poor patch again you'll change your mind and say he is now crap.

Southend v Torquay matchdat thread on page 13 and Brucie wrote,
So: Bobby O
Mansell - Robbo - Ellis - Nicholson
O'Kane - Oastler - Lathrope - Bodin
Howe - McPhee

'OK so we could do with a central midfielder and A STRIKER'

A STRIKER Brucie? We,ve got the amazing Atieno haven't we? Why would we need another striker? Unless at the point you were writing this you thought Atieno was shite so ACTUALLY chose McPhee ahead of him and THEN ALSO requested another striker! A bit weird how all of a sudden he should be in ahead of Howe but when picking your ideal team Atieno isn't even there!

Basically my mantra is that Atieno is poor and i stand by that no matter what. I am consistent with my negativity about Atieno, you are just consistent with negativity full stop. Some folk on here find you amusing, i just pity you.

austrianandygull wrote:Basically my mantra is that Atieno is poor and i stand by that no matter what. I am consistent with my negativity about Atieno, you are just consistent with negativity full stop. Some folk on here find you amusing, i just pity you.

Your whole post is full of inconsistencies. How can you pull brucie up on this for negativity when he has praised Atieno? Isn't it ironic that you are moaning at him for constant negativity but then admit you'll never change your opinion on Atieno regardless of how he performs in the future. Opinions don't have to be set in stone, they are not about being black or white. A player can settle down and improve, he can work hard for the team and it's only right that fans see these positives and praise them. brucie can be a WUM but he's only a WUM when he's not watching the team. When he attends games, he always puts forward a decent appraisal.