Guilty until Proven Innocent

[Gullscorer]

Hopefully all this will make you think, if not promote debate:

The USA has one of the highest prison populations in the world. The UK has the highest in Europe. (And 78 per cent of men in US prisons were raised by single mothers, but that's a separate subject)! A considerable number of innocent people are convicted and imprisoned in the USA, and this also happens in the UK.

Watch this:

And for every innocent person convicted, the real perpetrator remains still at large to commit further crimes. DNA testing has been available for a long time; it can prove innocence as well as determine guilt. You'd think the authorities would have an interest in establishing the truth, yet as often as not they put obstacles in the way of people trying to prove their innocence.

And worse, police can and do, early in an investigation, decide who is guilty, and then seek only that evidence which supports their erroneous decision. And when evidence does come to light which supports a defendant's case, prosecuting authorities can and do hide this evidence from defence lawyers.

We think this sort of thing only happens to someone else. And 99 per cent of the time it does. So we can ignore the issue, right? Yes you can ignore it, until you yourself are wrongly arrested, convicted and imprisoned.

You can ignore, too, what the feminist movement has been doing in the past thirty years. (I was going to put this paragraph on the 'Equal Rights' thread, but here it is)! It's not about equality of opportunity for women. Feminism is an extreme ideology based on false premises and carefully doctored 'evidence', promoting hatred of men and promulgating ideas and 'facts' which most people know, from their own life experience, are completely at odds with reality. Feminism is, as Erin Pizzey says and knows from personal experience, a terrorist organisation. Normal men and women get on with their lives perfectly well together. But not in the eyes of Feminism. Ignore such important issues at your peril!

Now see the 'Equal Rights..' thread, and:

[OllieGull]

Correct me if I'm wrong and I probably am because this is a relatively stupid thought. But, would it be possible for police to use hypnotists when questioning suspects to get them to subconciously tell the truth

[Gullscorer]

Correct me if I'm wrong and I probably am because this is a relatively stupid thought. But, would it be possible for police to use hypnotists when questioning suspects to get them to subconciously tell the truth

Afraid not. Totally unreliable.

[OllieGull]

Afraid not. Totally unreliable.

Haha fair enough, was worth a shot.

[Trojan 67]

And there's me in LaLa land thinking we're presumed innocent until proven guilty.

Note the word is presumed and not assumed.

Then there's assume.

I'll leave some other arse to make a fool out of you and me both.

[Glostergull]

And there's me in LaLa land thinking we're presumed innocent until proven guilty.

Note the word is presumed and not assumed.

Then there's assume.

I'll leave some other arse to make a fool out of you and me both.

Eehhh Good on ya Trojan. You have hereby picked up Ferrari's Baton. go on son give em hell

[chunkygull]

does anyone feel the cops in south africa are a dodgy bunch.

did they make up their minds from the start oscar pistorius shot his girlfriend on purpose and have set about looking for evidence and a balance towards being guilty rather than looking for the truth. all sounds well dodgy.