Torquay United Fans Forum

Enjoy your holiday and don't let the bickering put you off posting, it's a good place to be if you can ignore some of the sarcasm (mainly from me )

Granted all my posts have been on the thread i started, which is natural i would have thought being a newcomer and first post, promise i will buck up and will join in on other posts when i get time............
As far as Ling is concerned yes I know him so naturally knowing fully what happened does obviously make me sympathetic in that direction however time moves on and a new manager is in place and i was just seeing what views were out there in relation to my opening post, didn't expect to cause so much controversy on the way though!!!
Anyway no offence meant to anybody and its been interesting along the way, off to Gran Canaria tomorrow so look forward to catching up when I get back

I'll try, Chris. You know what a sensitive chap I am

Southampton Gull wrote:I'm sure all of us admins are very hurt by Brucie's revelations, however the post was definitely abusive and removed because of it. I'm also sure Wivel will agree...........................with Brucie.

dry yer eyes Dave.....................

I'm sure all of us admins are very hurt by Brucie's revelations, however the post was definitely abusive and removed because of it. I'm also sure Wivel will agree...........................with Brucie.

[quote="brucie"]My post didn't actually contain any abuse at all - calling someone a fool isn't abuse. The second part of the post agreed with Fl about Rice making something of an error. That isn't abusive.[quote]

Dictionary: Abuse: 'to speak insultingly or cruelly, to revile.'

So yes, calling someone a fool could be regarded as abusive or offensive. Only mildly so, no doubt, but where do you draw the line? If 'fool' is not abusive, how about idiot, cretin, bonehead, half-wit, and other synonymous words? People should be able to shrug off a few insults, but at what point does offensive become seriously abusive? Much depends upon the context, and the sensitivity or vulnerability of the person you are insulting. But this sort of thing is not necessary, whatever your point or argument may be. Courtesy and good manners, whatever the provocation, are a far better accompaniment to expression.

But if you repeatedly offend, insult or abuse, you can expect to be taken to task for it.

Interesting how Brucie is acting hurt about removal of an apparently abusive comment from him (didn't read it so don't know what it said, was it directed at me I wonder?). Brucie delights in abusing others, has called me an "imbecile" and "retarded" in recent comments. THAT is the kind of behaviour and language that makes it unpleasant for others on this forum. The most obvious differences between Brucie and Austrianandygull are that (1) Andy is clearly a passionate Gulls fan and (2) his comments are mostly enjoyed and welcomed by others on the forum. I welcome Andy back, he brings humour and adds a lot to the forum, unlike one or two that I could mention.

I really don't see why the mods and admins are being slated here. They are doing a great job and generally keep the flow of the forum going quite well.

This makes me think of the old line, "In every friend group, there is always an a**ehole, and if you can't think who that is, it's probably you.". Similarly, if you think people have a vendetta against you, perhaps it's down to what you do...

I don't know if it would work on here, but whenever I cock up and lose a lot of text on something, CTRL+Z for back should get everything to come back so you don't have to write out a long post again.

My post didn't actually contain any abuse at all - calling someone a fool isn't abuse. The second part of the post agreed with Fl about Rice making something of an error. That isn't abusive.
Its just typical of this forum though - there are too many people with agendas or up their own arses (thats probably abuse).
What chance have you got when the moderators are the worst offenders. I posted something after the Oxford game only for one of your moderators to reply with the word Troll and a picture of said dwarf thing.
Couldn't care less really but that's the sort of humour you would expect from a three year old - not a grown up charged with running an internet forum.
Perhaps you should actually ban him because my feelings have been hurt - that would be a laugh.
Lets see how long this message lasts.
No wonder Andy jumped ship.

rooster wrote: The problem with these forums is some people seem to make up what they feel and attribute it to someone, read back and you will see that I purely said that it was interesting reading. In relation to being unaware of the situation again you have conveniently put your slant on it, of course I am aware , what I was referring too was as I am new to this and wasn't aware of the ML thread so wasn't aware what had previously been discussed thats why I asked you where it was and then read it........simples, try and keep it real !
At the end of the day you seem like an individual that will believe what you want to so I am not going to change your mind and have no desire to really, just have my opinions and knowledge which I shared.................

what i meant was that you understood the threads content and that you were unaware of the situation regarding what the posters on that thread felt.

i dont really give a monkeys about your personal details regarding ling.

i was merely trying to point you in the direction of the thread so you could see what had been said previously.

Why don't you take a screenshot of your supposedly missing posts when they appear? Unfortunately for you I have had the Moderator Log open since this morning and there are no updates since nrucie had his entire post removed due to the abuse it contained.

What bit of what you are saying are you trying to prove?

Matt.

I give up! it's gone again as I expect this one will disappear as well! I no longer see the point in bothering, this will undoubtedly please a few people on here! wish I could prove what I'm saying!

Just to add my view, I have been a memeber of this forum since our first season the in bsp under it's old name before it re-started in 2010, I have allways enjoyed it and still do, had holes picked in my posts many a time, doesn't bother me to a point, don't see the need to be rude or insulting.

If you don't like whats being posted, post your own stuff, if you find boring post your own stuff, this forum can easily be aplace that offers something for everyone, as said it's what you make it.

I have allways made my self open to meet anyone from the site who wishs to do so, and have been lucky enough to meet a lot of people from here, and often have a chat and get on with poeple who never agree with me, and go to meet ups at away matchs and see many who never agree having a pint, together, that my other point if someone doesn't agree, doesn't mean they dislike you.

Now back to this thread, my point is, rooster has made 27 posts on this site all on this thread, he/she clearly has a personal interest in this subject, a close friend or family memeber of Martin Ling maybe?

All I am saying is, very easy to come here and say I know someone, what I am saying is true, means nothing. If rooster wants to be taken seriuosly, then Matt is right, spill the beans, no one is going to believe rooster, with out proper proof, lets have it rooster becuase at the moment you protest to much.