Torquay United Fans Forum

I thought it was a printed logo, but while purchasing my new home shirt in the shop this afternoon, the mannequin was wearing a shirt with an embroidered logo on the away shirt ?

Ha ha, Philgull, you are right in some ways. In fact I think we played in red and white hoops even before the black and white but that strip was abandoned because the shirts turned salmon coloured when the dye ran in the wet. Salmon, there's a colour. Be nice to spawn a colour not used before.

I'm guessing this was the cheapest option. Basic white t-shirt, shorts and socks with black printed logos. No fuss minimalism.
As for tradition I say screw your modern yellow or gold rubbish, we should stick with the traditional black and white and start calling ourselves magpies again, like in the good old days ;-)

Thanks for the link - perhaps I missed the announcement but I am a little underwhelmed, although I quite like the fact it is unadorned with unnecessary trim but a yellow and blue badge would have been better.

Away kits waste of time. I would query whether they make any money out of having an away kit. They should play in their traditional colours at every opportunity. More people would buy the shirts then as they would be used far more often. Cannot stand this trend away from tradition, its yellow (or gold) shirts, blue shorts and perhaps yellow blue or white socks. Prefer blue and yellow hoops on the socks myself. Corporate identity and marketing, that's what it is all about and what increases sales.

sigh, i'll put the link up then shall i??!!

http://tufcshop.9drw.uk/categories/away

not keen myself, wish they'd have a decent coloured embroidered emblem on, rather than black printed one, or even better one like my avatar!!

Quite smart looking, pure white with black detail for MB logo and club logo. Cheaper than the home shirt and on the tufcshop online now. A few other new items available to purchase on their too from joma - not sure if they're part of Sondico who hAve done stuff for us in the past..?

Any news on this new white away kit we are supposed to be getting?

[quote="samuel"]We ARE the Brazil of the Westcountry[/quote]
:rofl:

[quote="hector"]Yes - the 88/89 white kit wasn't a thing of beauty, with that strange yellow bib - although it was probably the first replica shirt I ever bought - I might dig it out for a game this season, while I think of it.

We wore white for 8 years from 1974 - 1982 plus the season 88/89, so my earliest memories of TUFC and my early seasons were with us wearing white. When we changed to yellow and blue, for Bruce Rioch's first season as manager, it did feel strange at the time.

That whole era at the time saw us wearing template kits from buckta, umbro and even osca (the wretched blue kit) - so other clubs in the division were wearing exactly the same kits but in their own colours. Even the original yellow and white stripes was a template - a yellow and white version of the same Exeter had at the time, while our purple away kit of 91/92 was exactly the same as the away kit of Notts County, and a blue and white striped away kit from the mid-90s was the same as a the home kit Chester had at the same time (I made the mistake of wearing mine the day we played them at home).

The Superleague kit of Rodney Jack era was exactly the same in style as those sported by Brighton, Lincoln and many other teams and it wasn't until Vandanel became our supplier that we started getting bespoke kits.

Look on footballshirtculture.com or historicalkits.co.uk and you can see how those teams with puma, adidas or nike kits just have template shirts the same as anyone else using the same brand, therefore no individuality or respect for history. QPR had to wear narrow hoops last year, not because they chose them but because Nike didn't do shirts with wide hoops, so some farcical explanation is usually provided linking to the club's history but in reality it is because they can only select from certain designs.

Sondico are making some of the nicer shirts for lower divisions teams at the moment - a nod to history and individuality. I'm hoping that the new white away kit they are designing for this season is the classic from 1974. That would sell plenty I would imagine.[/quote]

Good post Hector, a nice little reminder there of some of the dodginess we have witnessed. I remember the template kits as you say, I remember seeing the same design as the yellow and white stripes but in different colours, I'm sure Notts County had their home shirt in the same design as ours as well, I've got the purple and white away top from that season, love the shirt but quality is poor. Also still got the blue and white stripes away one (actually we had 2 in those colours and I got them both, one for a tenner) and the 97-99 superleague one you mention, yes they were all very generic and a few other clubs definitely had the same template.I dont mind the template thing too much as long as they look smart and we are wearing the right colours, and you know what they should be. :)

[quote="samuel"]Is it compulsory we have a different away kit - something in the league rules?[/quote]

I suspect it's all to do with marketing as usual. Got to keep the tills ringing.
I agree though, it's pointless to have a change strip unless there's a clash with the home team in my opinion.

I'm with Chunky. We ARE the Brazil of the Westcountry and should wear the kit accordingly at home and away whenever possible. Don't go for this away kit lark at all, one team one kit unless there is a clash. I'm sure more home shirts would be bought if they played in the same colours away and people were therefore getting more value out of their purchase. Change of kit away should only happen rarely. Not only that, the colours worn by the Yellow Army would be representative of the colours of our team on the pitch. Is it compulsory we have a different away kit - something in the league rules?

Yes - the 88/89 white kit wasn't a thing of beauty, with that strange yellow bib - although it was probably the first replica shirt I ever bought - I might dig it out for a game this season, while I think of it.

We wore white for 8 years from 1974 - 1982 plus the season 88/89, so my earliest memories of TUFC and my early seasons were with us wearing white. When we changed to yellow and blue, for Bruce Rioch's first season as manager, it did feel strange at the time.

That whole era at the time saw us wearing template kits from buckta, umbro and even osca (the wretched blue kit) - so other clubs in the division were wearing exactly the same kits but in their own colours. Even the original yellow and white stripes was a template - a yellow and white version of the same Exeter had at the time, while our purple away kit of 91/92 was exactly the same as the away kit of Notts County, and a blue and white striped away kit from the mid-90s was the same as a the home kit Chester had at the same time (I made the mistake of wearing mine the day we played them at home).

The Superleague kit of Rodney Jack era was exactly the same in style as those sported by Brighton, Lincoln and many other teams and it wasn't until Vandanel became our supplier that we started getting bespoke kits.

Look on footballshirtculture.com or historicalkits.co.uk and you can see how those teams with puma, adidas or nike kits just have template shirts the same as anyone else using the same brand, therefore no individuality or respect for history. QPR had to wear narrow hoops last year, not because they chose them but because Nike didn't do shirts with wide hoops, so some farcical explanation is usually provided linking to the club's history but in reality it is because they can only select from certain designs.

Sondico are making some of the nicer shirts for lower divisions teams at the moment - a nod to history and individuality. I'm hoping that the new white away kit they are designing for this season is the classic from 1974. That would sell plenty I would imagine.

[quote]Postby PhilGull » 36 minutes ago

Adopt a Chelsea kit? Are you Dave Webb in disguise?![/quote]

No, and I certainly dont support Chelsea either before anyone starts, I just thought when I saw that yellow and blue combo earlier in the season that its a true and proper representation of what a Torquay United kit should be, even the style is great.

I still cant believe some of the things I have heard that Webb did here, that blue and white Chelsea kit was one of the low points, it took our own identity away.

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[quote="hector"]Being a child of the 79/80 season, part of me would be happy with a white kit...if Buckta could be revived to make it - even better.[/quote]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, never ever do I want to see white with bits of yellow and blue or any hint of white on the home shirt ever again. That thing they turned up in during 88/89 season put me off for ever ([i]Last match of the season Jimmy Smith offered me his shirt over by the snack bar after he had been subbed and I turned it down, coz it was awful, wish I hadnt now but never mind[/i]) , and dont get me started again on yellow and white stripes. I dont ever want to see any white on the home shirt or shorts in any way, shape or form, if we have a Brazil with yellow shirt, blue shorts and white socks then that would be fine, admittedly last years wasnt perfect but a better, brighter design with that combo would be pretty good.

Being a child of the 79/80 season, part of me would be happy with a white kit...if Buckta could be revived to make it - even better.