Mansell signs for Bristol Rovers

[torkie_buoy]

Mansell's been given longer by CH, Poke and Lathrope should be heard of in the next few days.

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[taunton_gull]

Surely Mansell has had long enough to decide whether he is going to stick around or not? To be honest I think he can consider himself very lucky to be offered anything given last seasons 'performances.' Given the number of journeymen we are already lumbered with I can't see that him re-signing will help our cause to get in and around the top half next season.

[torkie_buoy]

Surely Mansell has had long enough to decide whether he is going to stick around or not? To be honest I think he can consider himself very lucky to be offered anything given last seasons 'performances.' Given the number of journeymen we are already lumbered with I can't see that him re-signing will help our cause to get in and around the top half next season.

Wouldn't argue with you there, although i guess its a big decision with a family to think about. He didn't seem to be enjoying Plainmoor as a place come the end of the season, and with the form he was in I doubt he will come back. All the best to him if he goes (which I think he will) , he was a loyal player.

[lucy6lucy]

I agree with Taunton gull and with you. But if he has no other options and let's face it if Plymouth or shite don't want him he will most likely have to relocate, which given schooling etc it may well be feasible to set a goal to get us back in league and get a 20k PAYRISE next year. Sell a few herbs and he will be sorted. Let's face it he won't be returning , Hargreaves giving him extra time could show weakness on his behalf and being a best mate

[Rjc70]

Nobody else will want him as a first choice. He'll sign, unless some team misses out on their third choice central midfield. Hope Lathrope stays.

[leetufc]

I'm indifferent to Mansell staying or going at the moment. At the back end of the season, given his poor form and the way things were going, I was happy to cut ties.

However, depending on the package he's been offered - I assume it's vastly reduced given the length of time he has considered the offer - I wouldn't necessarily mind him staying. He's only 31 so should have a season or two left in him, and we have dropped down a level so he may start to turn in better performances.

A one year deal, on reduced wages wouldn't be a bad option for the club.

As for Lee himself, I don't blame him one bit for giving the offer a lot of consideration. He's approaching the end of his career, a he has to think about what is best for his family. He won't have earned a fortune playing for us over the last eight years, and he owes it to himself and his family to make the best out of his last few seasons as a pro. Presuming he's had other offers, or believes he can earn more elsewhere. he's got to weigh up making extra money so he doesn't struggle once he retires against up rooting his settled family.

It's a big decision and one I fully understand him wishing to take his time on.

Either way, I won't be disappointed if he stays or goes. And if it's the latter, I will wish him all the best as a great servant to our club, and someone who would always give 100% for the cause.

[hector]

I'm indifferent to Mansell staying or going at the moment. At the back end of the season, given his poor form and the way things were going, I was happy to cut ties.

However, depending on the package he's been offered - I assume it's vastly reduced given the length of time he has considered the offer - I wouldn't necessarily mind him staying. He's only 31 so should have a season or two left in him, and we have dropped down a level so he may start to turn in better performances.

A one year deal, on reduced wages wouldn't be a bad option for the club.

As for Lee himself, I don't blame him one bit for giving the offer a lot of consideration. He's approaching the end of his career, a he has to think about what is best for his family. He won't have earned a fortune playing for us over the last eight years, and he owes it to himself and his family to make the best out of his last few seasons as a pro. Presuming he's had other offers, or believes he can earn more elsewhere. he's got to weigh up making extra money so he doesn't struggle once he retires against up rooting his settled family.

It's a big decision and one I fully understand him wishing to take his time on.

Either way, I won't be disappointed if he stays or goes. And if it's the latter, I will wish him all the best as a great servant to our club, and someone who would always give 100% for the cause.

A very fair assessment of the situation and just about how I see things too.

[lucy6lucy]

I'm indifferent to Mansell staying or going at the moment. At the back end of the season, given his poor form and the way things were going, I was happy to cut ties.

However, depending on the package he's been offered - I assume it's vastly reduced given the length of time he has considered the offer - I wouldn't necessarily mind him staying. He's only 31 so should have a season or two left in him, and we have dropped down a level so he may start to turn in better performances.

A one year deal, on reduced wages wouldn't be a bad option for the club.

As for Lee himself, I don't blame him one bit for giving the offer a lot of consideration. He's approaching the end of his career, a he has to think about what is best for his family. He won't have earned a fortune playing for us over the last eight years, and he owes it to himself and his family to make the best out of his last few seasons as a pro. Presuming he's had other offers, or believes he can earn more elsewhere. he's got to weigh up making extra money so he doesn't struggle once he retires against up rooting his settled family.

It's a big decision and one I fully understand him wishing to take his time on.

Either way, I won't be disappointed if he stays or goes. And if it's the latter, I will wish him all the best as a great servant to our club, and someone who would always give 100% for the cause.

[Gloomy Gull]

I acknowledge all the rhetoric about Mansell having a family/short career span etc. BUT he has had circa 6 weeks to work through his income and expenditure budget, discuss with his wife and family the implications of a reduced salary on their current lifestyle.

If he was working in the mainstream sectors his answer to a contract offer would have been demanded many weeks before this or the job offer would or most certainly have been withdrawn and the position offered to A N Other.

Why, because he is a footballer, should we/he expect that his deliberations on a new job at a lower salary should be any more strenuous than someone who has lost their previous job and have been offered a new short term contract at a lower salary ?? Does his being a footballer automatically mean that he should be treated with a more lenient approach? In effect he has lost his job and is being offered a replacement role - no more no less.

In addition, in my view, if he loves the club so much does he not feel some sort of responsibility to not keep us hanging on for an answer, which may be no, and reduce the time available to find a replacement if he chooses to leave after all?

Come on Mansell - take a p*ss or get off the pot.

[Gazzableedsgull]

The thing for me is that if a player wants to stay then they will have signed already. CH has already said he wants players who want to be here and are obviously good enough. It looks to me that the players that are mulling over offers don't want to be with us and in my opinion they aren't good enough anymore.
In regards to Mansell, I would love him to sign and have a good season but I can't see either happening at this stage.

[taunton_gull]

I acknowledge all the rhetoric about Mansell having a family/short career span etc. BUT he has had circa 6 weeks to work through his income and expenditure budget, discuss with his wife and family the implications of a reduced salary on their current lifestyle.

If he was working in the mainstream sectors his answer to a contract offer would have been demanded many weeks before this or the job offer would or most certainly have been withdrawn and the position offered to A N Other.

Why, because he is a footballer, should we/he expect that his deliberations on a new job at a lower salary should be any more strenuous than someone who has lost their previous job and have been offered a new short term contract at a lower salary ?? Does his being a footballer automatically mean that he should be treated with a more lenient approach? In effect he has lost his job and is being offered a replacement role - no more no less.

In addition, in my view, if he loves the club so much does he not feel some sort of responsibility to not keep us hanging on for an answer, which may be no, and reduce the time available to find a replacement if he chooses to leave after all?

Come on Mansell - take a p*ss or get off the pot.

[leetufc]

Mansell's contract does not end until 30 June so I don't see the rush for this to be sorted. Yes, CH needs to know sooner rather than later so he can plan for a replacement, but I would hope he has contingency options ready if Lee turns us down.

Any players we will look to sign to replace Lee are likely to be in a similar boat, ie weighing up offers or being out of contract end of the month. As a conference side, there are likely to be several players of similar ability looking for a club this summer. There's a great deal more supply, especially for a midfield role like Lee's (striker, winger etc may be a little different) that gives us an edge over negotiations as he is more easily replaceable than someone like Rene Howe where this happened last year.

I also don't think the club would sign someone yet from a practical point of view. Lee is with us and being paid until 30 June, we weren't ever going to sign someone until after this as it would mean paying two people for the same role, during a time of the year where cash flow is already tight with no games, and neither are being utilised. Any mainstream employer would take the same view.

Therefore whilst it's not ideal to be hanging on for a decision, it's not as essential as some people are making out. If it was the club would have pushed for an answer sooner. Clearly CH is happy to wait for a decision, therefore we should trust him, and stop worrying so much.

[ferrarilover]

The crass naivety and appalling lack of knowledge of the real world of some people who post on this board is utterly mind boggling.

Matt.

[Dave_Pougher]

The crass naivety and appalling lack of knowledge of the real world of some people who post on this board is utterly mind boggling.

Matt.

Oh woo is me and pity the plebs!

[Scott Brehaut]

I acknowledge all the rhetoric about Mansell having a family/short career span etc. BUT he has had circa 6 weeks to work through his income and expenditure budget, discuss with his wife and family the implications of a reduced salary on their current lifestyle.

If he was working in the mainstream sectors his answer to a contract offer would have been demanded many weeks before this or the job offer would or most certainly have been withdrawn and the position offered to A N Other.

Why, because he is a footballer, should we/he expect that his deliberations on a new job at a lower salary should be any more strenuous than someone who has lost their previous job and have been offered a new short term contract at a lower salary ?? Does his being a footballer automatically mean that he should be treated with a more lenient approach? In effect he has lost his job and is being offered a replacement role - no more no less.

In addition, in my view, if he loves the club so much does he not feel some sort of responsibility to not keep us hanging on for an answer, which may be no, and reduce the time available to find a replacement if he chooses to leave after all?

Come on Mansell - take a p*ss or get off the pot.

Well, firstly, football as a career is totally different from the "real" world.

If I was "wanted" by another company, they wouldn't need to buy me out of my contract by offering my employer a certain amount of money, my contract doesn't "run out" after two or three years and I can stay there for as long as I want (or until the company get fed up with me and serve notice on me)

A footballer, especially in the lower leagues, has a limited amount of time to earn money before they are deemed too old and past it, has to put in a transfer request and hope that another club want them if they want out before the end of their contract and have no promises that they will be able to stay at the end of their contract.
They have so many thousand people (if they are lucky) telling them every week how good or shit they are at their job, and are usually deemed to be "disloyal" if they wish to leave.

Add to that, if you or I want to get another job, you can probably get one fairly close to where you live (or a small commute each day) - a footballer may not get another offer near where they live and have to think about uprooting their whole family (possible removing their kids from school too) and go somewhere else in the country.

In essence I don't begrudge any player from taking their time - especially when they have had a significent reduction in pay to factor in too.
Whilst I can appreciate that others may not be as forgiving, I think that the players keeping us waiting are perfectly entitled to do so given the decision they have to make.