Pre-Season Friendlies

culmstockgull · Post by **culmstockgull** » 29 Jul 2023, 17:39

That was an interesting friendly, and i appreciate it was just that ( but try telling lapslie) guarantee he will be the first to see red this season. from minute one southampton were all over us, they were faster , and certainly fitter than us, it took us to about 15 minutes to get out of our half.
If johnson had any doubts that our back line will be our achilles heel again for the second season running then after today he can be in no doubt, donnellan and tomlison were generally poor , craske was fighting fires most of the game when the previous two went missing on a regular basis, not sure what goes on in mcgavins mind at times, one minute he is on fire , the next he looks like an under 14 player who has had no coaching.
Collins and stobbs were what you would expect, very good for this league, ash and jarvis are finding a good understanding so I do not believe goals will be an issue, lets just hope we can score more than we let in. As an aside any one of half a dozen southampton B players would make our starting eleven.

DB57 · Post by **DB57** » 29 Jul 2023, 20:35

culmstockgull wrote: 29 Jul 2023, 17:39 That was an interesting friendly, and i appreciate it was just that ( but try telling lapslie) guarantee he will be the first to see red this season. from minute one southampton were all over us, they were faster , and certainly fitter than us, it took us to about 15 minutes to get out of our half.
If johnson had any doubts that our back line will be our achilles heel again for the second season running then after today he can be in no doubt, donnellan and tomlison were generally poor , craske was fighting fires most of the game when the previous two went missing on a regular basis, not sure what goes on in mcgavins mind at times, one minute he is on fire , the next he looks like an under 14 player who has had no coaching.
Collins and stobbs were what you would expect, very good for this league, ash and jarvis are finding a good understanding so I do not believe goals will be an issue, lets just hope we can score more than we let in. As an aside any one of half a dozen southampton B players would make our starting eleven.

Southampton don't have a B team. It was their under 21's we played. The lad that scored twice for them is 17!
Agree with what you say about McGavin- never know what you are going to get from him in any game let alone from week to week

DevonBee · Post by **DevonBee** » 29 Jul 2023, 20:44

Thankful the PSF games are over, todays result proving none of us should take these games in Pre season with a huge pinch of salt.
Johnson has lots to work on this week especially in defence which was our achilles last season. Dover game as we all know is the bread and butter, we need a fast start to the season .
You owe us Johnson big time.

Post by **Southampton Gull** » 29 Jul 2023, 21:06

And back he comes after a defeat.....

Technically he owes us nothing, we're back where we started.....

Admiral · Post by **Admiral** » 29 Jul 2023, 21:14

Let’s be honest, Southampton have one of the most productive academies in the country (bale, Walcott, ox), and there’s also the ‘don’t get injured a week before the season’ element, so like every other friendly including Exeter don’t read too much into it! I expect we’ll sign one of their starting XI on loan next week too..

Mr Tea808 · Post by **Mr Tea808** » 29 Jul 2023, 22:09

I thought B teams were all phased out in about 2001!!, It's flowering it up to call them Saints B team, we all know it was their U21's,...I said many weeks ago when we beat Reading's U16's I take nothing from pre season friendlies, they are merely a fitness exercise, I cannot believe people PAY good money to watch them?, What is the point??.GJ DOES owe us, it was his squad and his marquee signings, his formations and tactics, I'll stop now but you get my drift, sadly I can see us in NLS few a few years to come, this is our new level.

brucie · Post by **brucie** » 29 Jul 2023, 22:26

I sort of agree unfortunately - If Ash or Jarvis get injured then we have no back up whatsoever. Dawson has had a hamstring operation so god knows when he will be fit, and our back up players were either nowhere near good enough last season or like Martin were injured for all of it.

I'm sure we will score goals with the likes of Stobbs, Collins, Ash and Jarvis - clearly thats where our strength lies.

Our midfield lacks pace and there are major question marks over our defence. A decent centre half is needed and another striker as back up minimum.

Its ludicrous to suggest that Johnson doesnt owe us anything. Hes been paid enough money and hes failed miserably by getting relegated from a poor league last season.

Post by **Southampton Gull** » 29 Jul 2023, 23:01

How much has he been paid?

DevonBee · Post by **DevonBee** » 30 Jul 2023, 05:02

Southampton Gull wrote: 29 Jul 2023, 21:06 And back he comes after a defeat.....

Technically he owes us nothing, we're back where we started.....

Many others will disagree with you SG but it is all about opinions

Even Johnson eventually admitted he owes us… maybe you missed that.
Internet problems sorted in Hants ? so welcome back

DB57 · Post by **DB57** » 30 Jul 2023, 05:04

Southampton Gull wrote: 29 Jul 2023, 23:01 How much has he been paid?

Based on his achievements, too much

DevonBee · Post by **DevonBee** » 30 Jul 2023, 05:10

Mr Tea808 wrote: 29 Jul 2023, 22:09 I thought B teams were all phased out in about 2001!!, It's flowering it up to call them Saints B team, we all know it was their U21's,...I said many weeks ago when we beat Reading's U16's I take nothing from pre season friendlies, they are merely a fitness exercise, I cannot believe people PAY good money to watch them?, What is the point??.GJ DOES owe us, it was his squad and his marquee signings, his formations and tactics, I'll stop now but you get my drift, sadly I can see us in NLS few a few years to come, this is our new level.

Fully agree Mr Tea808 I would not waste my money on pointless PSF. The important stuff starts at Dover.
Johnson admits he OWES us and he does Big Time.
A so called experienced previous Championship manager and now back in the 6th tier. As we are blessed with this situation, let’s hope we can come flying out of the blocks

DevonBee · Post by **DevonBee** » 30 Jul 2023, 05:11

DB57 wrote: 30 Jul 2023, 05:04 Based on his achievements, too much

100% correct

gullno4 · Post by **gullno4** » 30 Jul 2023, 06:16

We will not play a team of that level for another year. Their no. 7 moved to Chelsea (before returning 2 months later) for £1.5mil. Their no’s 9 and 10 both played a couple of games in the prem last season.

Sometimes you just have to sit back and accept that we’ve been outplayed by a far better team. We won’t meet a team anywhere near that standard in the NLS.

Post by **Southampton Gull** » 30 Jul 2023, 09:02

DB57 wrote: 30 Jul 2023, 05:04 Based on his achievements, too much

Winning the NLS and getting us to the NL Playoff final? Well earned whatever it was.......

jono_Gull209 · Post by **jono_Gull209** » 30 Jul 2023, 10:05

Dawson has had an operation? Where did you hear that?

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